From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:06:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130703150607.09eb9d1c@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130702211607.5aeafeba@sf>
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 21:16:07 +0300
Sergei Trofimovich <slyfox@gentoo.org> wrote:
> udev's case:
> It's _not_ the kernel which upgrade breaks user's system. Why do you
> try to "fix" it? If you want to save user's box - make check at
> pre-install time. Otherwise it will break.
Won't work for stage3's case, where this check won't run.
> kernel's case:
> CONFIG_DEVTMPFS needs 'default yes', right? One-liner to
> gentoo-sources.
It's not as simple as a one-liner, because we need to respect people
that want to build a kernel without that; not everyone who uses
genpatches runs a Gentoo system, and note every other OS needs that
variable to enabled.
> Why 'hide' it? It's very counterintuitive.
What is being hidden?
> What will you do with all-those-required-to-boot-properly
> - root filesystem
> - disk controller
> - USB keyboard drivers
> ?
> Include them all unless CONFIG_DONT_REMOVER_OR_WONT_BOOT
> option?
These don't fall under options that need to be enabled for everyone.
From what I see on chat and forums, people often set all these fine;
yet they not always enable CONFIG_DEVTMPFS and similar variables.
We deal with the absolutely necessary, not spoon feed every option.
> I'm afraid I don't see how it's a solution.
> Suppose, tomorrow's udev will require CONFIG_foo, and glibc will
> require CONFIG_bar. How will you save user with your mechanism?
I don't see how we don't save them; but well, I'm not entirely sure if
you're talking about the opening post mechanism or another one here.
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-01 14:41 [gentoo-dev] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration Tom Wijsman
2013-07-01 15:14 ` Ben de Groot
2013-07-01 15:20 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] " Jeff Horelick
2013-07-01 18:30 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-07-01 19:07 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-01 19:24 ` Greg KH
2013-07-01 19:40 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-01 19:55 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-07-01 19:59 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-07-01 20:03 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-07-01 20:06 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-01 20:24 ` Christoph Junghans
2013-07-01 20:27 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-07-01 20:25 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-07-01 21:18 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-07-01 16:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-07-01 16:28 ` hasufell
2013-07-01 17:35 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-01 17:52 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-07-05 0:19 ` Mike Pagano
2013-07-17 21:11 ` Donnie Berkholz
2013-07-01 18:17 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] " Greg KH
2013-07-01 18:38 ` Markos Chandras
2013-07-01 18:56 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-01 19:09 ` Matthew Summers
2013-07-01 19:25 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-01 19:33 ` Greg KH
2013-07-01 19:50 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-03 10:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-07-03 12:42 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-04 2:00 ` Walter Dnes
2013-07-04 5:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-07-04 7:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-07-04 5:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-07-04 7:57 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-05 8:38 ` Steven J. Long
2013-07-05 9:04 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-09 15:12 ` Steven J. Long
2013-07-01 20:14 ` Markos Chandras
2013-07-01 20:25 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-07-01 21:26 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-07-01 21:30 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-07-01 21:55 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-07-01 20:31 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-01 18:45 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-01 19:23 ` Greg KH
2013-07-01 19:33 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-01 21:17 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-07-01 21:24 ` Greg KH
2013-07-01 21:53 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-07-02 8:31 ` gentoo-checkconf script " Michael Weber
2013-07-03 11:40 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-checkconf script " Steven J. Long
2013-07-01 21:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-07-02 1:36 ` Richard Yao
2013-07-02 1:44 ` Richard Yao
2013-07-02 1:56 ` Greg KH
2013-07-02 3:29 ` Richard Yao
2013-07-02 3:40 ` Richard Yao
2013-07-02 19:39 ` Greg KH
2013-07-02 3:31 ` Richard Yao
2013-07-02 7:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sergei Trofimovich
2013-07-02 8:21 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-07-02 8:37 ` Michael Weber
2013-07-02 8:52 ` Michael Weber
2013-07-02 18:16 ` Sergei Trofimovich
2013-07-03 13:06 ` Tom Wijsman [this message]
2013-07-03 13:52 ` Sergei Trofimovich
2013-07-03 15:18 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-03 16:10 ` Sergei Trofimovich
2013-07-02 10:08 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-02 21:48 ` Tomáš Pružina
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