From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58451381F3 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 00:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88358E0956; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 00:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f49.google.com (mail-yh0-f49.google.com [209.85.213.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0D92E0933 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 00:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f49.google.com with SMTP id i7so52886yha.22 for ; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 17:21:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=sCAX7NHrIXg04ulCdKheqy1ZXhw0n9ctdjQsF39hXAA=; b=QgmsSjG0EpwMfVjw8OrkhzpdpCDFGWjKJJCHQ0AcC7gXVJhSU4r2bPpmcK2RRLvZU7 +nLV3+G9rj+NZpdKQEh+Vl3LnrcBNrLNnFqNiQF25L5sDYx7Zo8WJJx6em7JJVPMhtIv jO0NWWllUuR8ir+BvznKv5tw2PdfxOnFKemylZm3lox7O6UN7G5nYrCCkcW9Hkvvp1uu 8H5tq1k0MtBVg/qf/xbyRrGyNJI2lDB7Qk5eS6+O+6saaAdtMO/H1/BTvURYDKp2u5Lg /wUi7BthO/ArdTgeqcl5C56YwqrVYbGmIREVbbDkYoXHlidyw9pKg2azTFV2YWyPHWje /5mA== X-Received: by 10.236.44.137 with SMTP id n9mr11418174yhb.169.1370132498710; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 17:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f19sm78749712yhj.3.2013.06.01.17.21.35 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 01 Jun 2013 17:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 01 Jun 2013 19:21:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 19:21:34 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPAND flag for www-servers/monkeyd Message-ID: <20130602002134.GA26534@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= , gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <51A3C431.7010900@gentoo.org> <20130528173513.50742051@gentoo.org> <51A4FDFF.3020103@gentoo.org> <20130528210737.42695fc9@gentoo.org> <20130528221540.GA2053@linux1> <20130530132359.04cf5815@sera-20.lan> <20130601174106.GA20043@linux1> <20130601200022.5b67b59f@gentoo.org> <20130601202032.GA26164@linux1> <20130601222654.7ddbde5b@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130601222654.7ddbde5b@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 42d59908-8a86-4f39-b7cd-2463b7e94bba X-Archives-Hash: 16989c4012db904682d3328101c9edb8 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 10:26:54PM +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > Dnia 2013-06-01, o godz. 15:20:32 > William Hubbs napisa=C5=82(a): >=20 > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 08:00:22PM +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > > If a switch toggles a feature that does not introduce additional > > > dependencies, is small and can be toggled from within the app, a flag > > > is useless. > > =20 > > If someone never wants the feature in the first place, and they can save > > space and build time by not building or installing the man pages, > > executables, config files, etc for it, forcing it onto their systems is > > an unnecessary waste of build time and bloating their systems. >=20 > Unless the complexity added by a dozen USE flags actually *wastes more > time* than installing the manpage. Especially if he ends up rebuilding > something big because someone smart decided to add USE flag he wouldn't > ever expect to be there. Sure there may be some rebuilds initially, but that also depends on when the use flags are added. If they are added with a new release and IUSE defaults are set so that the change in functionality is minimized, the chance of people having to rebuild because of the use flags is minimized. William --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlGqkA4ACgkQblQW9DDEZTgmTwCfXB9z81lfd6PsGiOqY5X9C3cl pkIAn0ZOhNK9e5ZPhTG6q8OJg8VfvLGo =Qpr2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi--