From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D55B1381F3 for ; Thu, 30 May 2013 00:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D562E09B9; Thu, 30 May 2013 00:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f47.google.com (mail-yh0-f47.google.com [209.85.213.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90C16E098A for ; Thu, 30 May 2013 00:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f47.google.com with SMTP id f73so869889yha.20 for ; Wed, 29 May 2013 17:22:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=zuUblWpwIXtSHIp8XbyLI98m6RRO5PYjHtHyIVZuXqY=; b=WKNrxCh7ImrgKlqlZ2OxehGl1c25rCNFOxD64uKGVofKlxKr0POGNtJOdaW9u5jnlq IqvyrDQGWbT7aqLHGKtjUexkDlIzdOtHwU3BI1PPPdxWlT0Wv5LeSiY4bfn05TbwBWD3 0K2kclTxmsHZrYXB1f2Axl9qJTe6GqUfL/HuoWWtdhxIPCJgiZ6OuQjNHaghYm6xFltS 42d94bQnUZudorOf0G7wiPFiYVEpbUZbEpljRxD0z6RcEVTCVH52TDJJEPg3jF4SvJNt pS92YsElL6EsH3FKbx2DGDkuhI2G4ajdd45jy1EKP0hh5mhqq5WasOP+qK7FKD3w3Y5c 2Xuw== X-Received: by 10.236.167.9 with SMTP id h9mr2208596yhl.83.1369873356672; Wed, 29 May 2013 17:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e72sm27851891yhi.18.2013.05.29.17.22.33 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 29 May 2013 17:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 29 May 2013 19:22:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:22:32 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init Message-ID: <20130530002232.GA7140@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20130527224021.GA18963@waltdnes.org> <20130528135619.44259b60@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130529105249.433e57f0@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130529181554.GB23135@waltdnes.org> <20130529215600.0e53c63f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130529205523.GA6281@linux1> <20130530020642.59449daf@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130530020642.59449daf@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: ebbbdee8-3ba5-47f3-a0bb-5c8293e3e774 X-Archives-Hash: 1416702c8c8136b400098ce052cf0b8a --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 02:06:42AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 29 May 2013 15:55:23 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: >=20 > > > We want to make this easier towards the user, therefore doing heavy > > > discussion to exhaust all the alternatives and maybe someone's > > > interested in implementing one of them that appears most feasible. > >=20 > > Since users can already do this, why are we bothering with > > re-inventing the wheel? How does running an eselect init command make > > it easier for the user than telling them to edit their boot loader > > config file? > > > > Gentoo users are expected to build their kernel and write their boot > > loader config file initially, so why are we trying to dumb this down? >=20 > For the same reason we have all the other eselect modules. =20 We could probably also turn gcc-config into an eselect module if we want to use that argument. > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/eselect/ >=20 > Ironically, that project description even mentions init system... :) Yes, but the init system module that project refers to is already there. Check out eselect rc. It has nothing to do with switching init systems. It appears to be a wrapper around rc-update and a couple of other things to manage init scripts and runlevels. Thanks, William --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlGmm8gACgkQblQW9DDEZThA3ACfbRYtzTXLAxcqnjPEoOuuEcsM ZdEAmgNEvkvJY8BTX8aijl5oJx8l+1zE =Y6ep -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP--