From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2EA1381F3 for ; Wed, 29 May 2013 20:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10916E09C5; Wed, 29 May 2013 20:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EF6CE09AF for ; Wed, 29 May 2013 20:55:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id wc20so3524261obb.32 for ; Wed, 29 May 2013 13:55:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=lPKsCA/1ZIwNOAa3JFiYDkjAb/D0rSQmjgerdAc/C6A=; b=wBLgmD3QMUnEVyPoE85NFk0Ck5bJNwGf4vFKLtsI1rBRZltR9DojwbwpdyVsJtSY/g TzYy2eL5IOMA36sgdxaOi3d4bDStjqKyirvowcxCcXC/PwgHQDdQPw91us74Z1qSDy0s xNGyKBVAxt18RnIbM7hJ8qdMbgs1lqgYIrX0WDR8Y4mTUt+syAzrNAI+NjmmlV1xHtW6 CbzKRSLiBpORKUTagSe8RJuYD4ibLPz9Z8lCOgZb0VPaqsQ5mlFXlOq1vBXWWcxirFx/ vf5LRkx7PiKfFTU7bPnXjkxEFTnFXAuNHBGln20yyF1lwOEVUiyUuUGumN2EcbpoC537 Of4Q== X-Received: by 10.60.33.138 with SMTP id r10mr2855111oei.20.1369860928211; Wed, 29 May 2013 13:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nt17sm41792783obb.13.2013.05.29.13.55.24 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 29 May 2013 13:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 29 May 2013 15:55:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 15:55:23 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init Message-ID: <20130529205523.GA6281@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <51A1F493.90101@gentoo.org> <51A22310.70202@gentoo.org> <20130527224021.GA18963@waltdnes.org> <20130528135619.44259b60@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130529105249.433e57f0@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130529181554.GB23135@waltdnes.org> <20130529215600.0e53c63f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130529215600.0e53c63f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 565e97ca-22e2-47eb-ade2-7d481dd0ca37 X-Archives-Hash: 7f7302682c687087ff1ea1b10f8a27db --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:56:00PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > There are a couple of other possible approaches... > >=20 > > 1) If the 2 systems can achieve peacefull co-existance (i.e. no > > identically-named files with different contents) then simply have 2 > > boot entries in /etc/lilo.conf (or grub equivalant)... > >=20 > > [SNIP to shorten mail] >=20 > Users can already do this, this isn't a solution. >=20 > We want to make this easier towards the user, therefore doing heavy > discussion to exhaust all the alternatives and maybe someone's > interested in implementing one of them that appears most feasible. Since users can already do this, why are we bothering with re-inventing the wheel? How does running an eselect init command make it easier for the user than telling them to edit their boot loader config file? Gentoo users are expected to build their kernel and write their boot loader config file initially, so why are we trying to dumb this down? William --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlGmazsACgkQblQW9DDEZTivRACfS2aV/RP5jdcRmWm+TE2Ex4pj 8bcAnR+rv8IqdCcTDjHd8Hss8XwMuEw0 =dMBe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6--