From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B411381F3 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 08:53:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAAF0E0A96; Sun, 26 May 2013 08:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jacques.telenet-ops.be (jacques.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.50]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD0EE0A90 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 08:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id gYsq1l00R2khLEN0JYsqUq; Sun, 26 May 2013 10:52:51 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 10:50:46 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] eselect init Message-ID: <20130526105046.13a84211@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20130526015228.GB12395@waltdnes.org> References: <51A08A68.3020900@gentoo.org> <20130525102503.23674.qmail@stuge.se> <20130525135739.2d302c1d@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130526015228.GB12395@waltdnes.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.18; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/ZfG4c7kxTmbUF8Q9J82uLii"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: ae4cc62b-2e76-4eb4-b045-177d4958b5be X-Archives-Hash: 65d2a92c54bdb60aa895350327c000eb --Sig_/ZfG4c7kxTmbUF8Q9J82uLii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 25 May 2013 21:52:28 -0400 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 01:57:39PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote > It has to be done *VERY* early at boot, or else we're back to the > problem you described above. Not sure what you mean with very early, you don't really have control over this anyway; the earliest point at which you can reliably do this is to turning init itself into a wrapper. > It's almost like a brain surgeon operating on himself. That's if externally you turn it into a symlink, not with a wrapper. > 1) boot into single mode before doing the changeover. Both grub and > lilo support single mode boot as per... > http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/TIP_Booting_into_single_user_mode And EFI? This sounds a bit of an overkill. What's wrong with a wrapper? > 2) have the setup/switchover mechanism built into the Gentoo minimal > install ISO. The advantage here is that if the system ends up no > longer bootable off the harddrive, you can still boot from the ISO, > chroot into the system on the harddrive, and send emails to the > gentoo-user list asking for help . Users can already use eselect in their chroot. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/ZfG4c7kxTmbUF8Q9J82uLii Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRoczpAAoJEJWyH81tNOV9lQsH/2KMimjD7RLM4VMDyC1Czxy9 4eioPUhdp2YTZojDVn37yJ8ZCZzhYKUH96cldKUnRp+o0IGfHWSQ7KKYjLbSNXwK 3EYb7/Y/uXAHYAKjIRgUC9e9Nxq4PAHuPwetYk+9PnmZIjh7UhWIPm4eCjdqwTGo YHZ025R+j7SntcbOMRAYz4z33OY3BqgCAGHx/ZWgh9pmZ3hg23LQkoU5JT7DDpnc eNBeliVwD5nsDd2TBbRtPqfNPbDcoYsuYf56js1/dRtvdzGa+Usax33AtFSjPA8i ICLlurzEf0YgUXoH06IhZfWpHpKh+GUPW0BOGqYtGpEqWp2noHdXdsYNY+F9E60= =v0kH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/ZfG4c7kxTmbUF8Q9J82uLii--