From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B0F1381F3 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 07:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A8CFE0D31; Sun, 26 May 2013 07:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0646FE0D2C for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 07:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (178-37-163-206.adsl.inetia.pl [178.37.163.206]) (using SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25D9933DF5F; Sun, 26 May 2013 07:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 09:49:47 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?B?TWljaGGzIEfzcm55?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: dev-zero@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) Message-ID: <20130526094947.65e809a3@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <1369552925.8150.12.camel@storm> References: <51A0FF5E.5070304@gentoo.org> <51A116B1.8010902@gentoo.org> <1369552925.8150.12.camel@storm> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.18; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA512; boundary="Sig_/BUS7bGqaXTQQrT4lwsFk9IU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 209bb8e5-b121-4f14-9cb5-93cebe9b5993 X-Archives-Hash: 7e6bee5e4be12c0c533864bed92445c9 --Sig_/BUS7bGqaXTQQrT4lwsFk9IU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 26 May 2013 09:22:05 +0200 Tiziano M=FCller wrote: > Am Samstag, den 25.05.2013, 15:53 -0400 schrieb Anthony G. Basile: > > We are moving too quickly on bug #448882 ([Tracker] packages not=20 > > providing systemd units). We should come to better consensus on system= d=20 > > integration and we were getting there with the idea of INSTALL_MASK. I= =20 > > don't know that it is a working solution yet. I have to oppose adding= =20 > > unit files unless we have a way to opt out for reasons I gave earlier,= =20 > > regarding embedded systems where one needs to conserve space=20 > > aggressively. And we may have found a way to do so without cluttering= =20 > > ebuilds with USE flags. >=20 > Even though I don't care about a couple of files more on my FS I would > prefer to find a solution with functions provided by PMS, not portage > alone. PMS doesn't cover configuration, and I feel this is mostly a configuration problem. > > Can I ask the systemd people to design a working solution for opting=20 > > out? I can't support this initiative without such a solution and I=20 > > would be happy to work with the systemd people to reach it, ie I'll tes= t. > >=20 >=20 > Maybe we have to find a more generic solution for this, because there is > bug #235944 [1] which request extra config snippets for rsyslog added to > various packages. Or is this something different? If yes, how? Well, I don't know rsyslog and I have no real idea where those files end up. But if they end up in a common directory, it's exactly the kind of thing we can handle with INSTALL_MASK. --=20 Best regards, Micha=B3 G=F3rny --Sig_/BUS7bGqaXTQQrT4lwsFk9IU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJRob6bXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ1RUJGMjBGOTk2RkIzQzIyQ0M2RkNBNDBC QUJGMUQ1RkY4QzgxMTBBAAoJELq/HV/4yBEKcyEQAK8QW8xgjmLXHTB1OzQAUzCP FpimLh1n2ZhgS2dzWl3pZ3YcA4c2ZT4CzwBDC5P4+L0xwkKfDFb0rVT5IxHesI05 Wp6Mj8EgsQJJiQksDQS7bXXZx1p7I84NF66mtWAYymg4x8FaRzAOZ9unpRHM27MP xyDD8dP5+xWrwWMzVMMu9l5Bz5ZC+MmSzavmPDLtpd7eRkSDX6vJh9pS4ZK3CpQA 4L6F2iTvOJ/ft2Z6kE6sp04TKI78Vu4hxahjO/6NTKy/5ET+RYh5PLSGioAdVU+I g2oJa5QJOJxY1HAZ33Z/qCgQfiZQ9oCqnXr1sT52aTnl4KDCvGQ7ysY0lS12xmNx qPI0SRDG1izT1N8oE32tU2A+caaMk5I8CW4hR9aMNuRqpEVXsvUVZBXLdfdS8v28 mSMD3sk4n9QBtPz8aMW1KrI7+u1eP4HCt1ppVnZTM+sdvyyG0BycWYrwJM8YzRgc TR4Qg/xew+O0S2scVhzana2MgJL4dF3c6T94aPhjVAiQHvgZ8WyB9wvhq+xA0Ndc 839vnRkYdiixM/VNc/vM0KtwswRFkjQNLV9jO3v0iv1i6usu3envZ60AYcxaoC5g wksaxojUlmserRB3IdXVmSEd6drudLliT4ldU9VkOE8L6xlh4yxhK1iOuodnA/FN VsgNFm0kKsf1il2k/3sP =+AEb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/BUS7bGqaXTQQrT4lwsFk9IU--