From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B311381F3 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 07:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2771AE0D21; Sun, 26 May 2013 07:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B64BE0D17 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 07:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (178-37-163-206.adsl.inetia.pl [178.37.163.206]) (using SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48B7533DF00; Sun, 26 May 2013 07:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 09:43:09 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?B?TWljaGGzIEfzcm55?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: yngwin@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) Message-ID: <20130526094309.3ed9ac1e@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20130525184830.5bb25483@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.18; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA512; boundary="Sig_/5WK566Anyn.PTjnzIC4D=+y"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: f4190c88-63d5-4be4-9077-5f20e6c76dd7 X-Archives-Hash: 9733dac67fa95b53271d894539966fb7 --Sig_/5WK566Anyn.PTjnzIC4D=+y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 26 May 2013 15:23:44 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 26 May 2013 00:48, Micha=B3 G=F3rny wrote: > > On the other hand, we > > also agreed that they shouldn't refuse unit files if anyone else > > does the work for them. >=20 > Where is this policy documented? Nowhere, I think. I've seen it coming in the late thread, looked common sense enough to me. If it is to be documented, I think we should document it in a more general fashion. To cover all stuff like completions, logrotate and so on. > >> [...] > >> And you misunderstood: it is systemd that is aggressively opposed to > >> Gentoo. But apparently that doesn't bother some of our developers and > >> Gentoo is becoming more and more welcoming to it. > > > > Protecting freedom through taking away the freedom of using systemd? > > Makes sense really. >=20 > That would be similar to the way the GPL protects software freedom. > Does that not make sense to you either? No. The initial version of that response even used 'FSF' but I've decided not to flame it. > But it isn't even like that. I'm not taking away anyone's freedom to > use systemd. You can do so if you wish. You can add unit files to your > system by yourself, or use an overlay. There are various ways this > could be realized even within Gentoo. You know how fragile that is, don't you? > But you seem to dismiss all of those, and will only be happy by > forcing maintainers to add support to packages they maintain, even if > they believe it is a bad idea. Do I? As far as I'm concerned, I always kindly asked on IRC or opened bugs for it. --=20 Best regards, Micha=B3 G=F3rny --Sig_/5WK566Anyn.PTjnzIC4D=+y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJRob0NXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ1RUJGMjBGOTk2RkIzQzIyQ0M2RkNBNDBC QUJGMUQ1RkY4QzgxMTBBAAoJELq/HV/4yBEKAWoP/2GounWjA9cfbuZSLjMeO9L0 KNMywJ1l1IFXz1yu9BB4E3ou95Uk5icNertVy2GK64YxYS7qoYabpFn8x1yGFWGf nnGOKoZxLTDaW+C4jD0uCOZWG0E/sIb0b3uvDSI7Qp8o8ACcsxnP2SRkXBmS+SiK 6Bopr0Ag96CafzGZGUlnd8uMk90uwsDQXpQ0wI4oyedaojVNyVALkV39LcCrB+ZH U3T7DHoK8N3g8bvpSLfoVVZKhA0X/g+AzYEBQu5QO1f5Ydzj8C9s84xibkBlGXoR Tfjm4/QdggOO5SoHnXlYsAn2uvt9u+3hOl+giQlIas11NBn++dKMXzxRqW5qHgqG 2haw8Sqjcg9guq07XXk3fZc7GkGCI6YfgLBvcFgrD0o+q/JPW6AuagH/AFZyk+UK jXtxdan2KcH8GnOCHulI9Xq0CdSEsmdDpcqyihu+ttDF1/3zLZ9HyzIMPiav4VYg cbZ8/wLd9UG3BQTgUPnq0NDy3fH4Tf7C+WtxEAVlyu+T0xc9fvbl9vhyqQYCD4GN CmEhHY4mT5+laICBk99vaKsKS4lclzoI4IWXIAq1sFUXBc8WMs//h1bQrUDwNGZJ lCU6Bw0TTKbCAsyS3d7ysPbL0CdVNWl+4HP2wMG/JhEtzD5Vg4QNw2VoCIKaoT+f 48lQw4LAjH2vZl/2qASC =8pWF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/5WK566Anyn.PTjnzIC4D=+y--