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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: yngwin@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 09:43:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130526094309.3ed9ac1e@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB9SyzQMBFifvdkPp6jXgQ0we6RvetBSmc-X+o+4EZ5z92UrxA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sun, 26 May 2013 15:23:44 +0800
Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 26 May 2013 00:48, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On the other hand, we
> > also agreed that they shouldn't refuse unit files if anyone else
> > does the work for them.
> 
> Where is this policy documented?

Nowhere, I think. I've seen it coming in the late thread, looked common
sense enough to me.

If it is to be documented, I think we should document it in a more
general fashion. To cover all stuff like completions, logrotate and so
on.

> >> [...]
> >> And you misunderstood: it is systemd that is aggressively opposed to
> >> Gentoo. But apparently that doesn't bother some of our developers and
> >> Gentoo is becoming more and more welcoming to it.
> >
> > Protecting freedom through taking away the freedom of using systemd?
> > Makes sense really.
> 
> That would be similar to the way the GPL protects software freedom.
> Does that not make sense to you either?

No. The initial version of that response even used 'FSF' but I've
decided not to flame it.

> But it isn't even like that. I'm not taking away anyone's freedom to
> use systemd. You can do so if you wish. You can add unit files to your
> system by yourself, or use an overlay. There are various ways this
> could be realized even within Gentoo.

You know how fragile that is, don't you?

> But you seem to dismiss all of those, and will only be happy by
> forcing maintainers to add support to packages they maintain, even if
> they believe it is a bad idea.

Do I? As far as I'm concerned, I always kindly asked on IRC or opened
bugs for it.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-26  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-25 16:14 [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) Ben de Groot
2013-05-25 16:48 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-25 17:38   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-25 20:02     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-25 20:40       ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-25 20:45       ` Michał Górny
2013-05-25 21:38   ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-26  7:23   ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26  7:43     ` Michał Górny [this message]
2013-05-26 10:04       ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26 15:21         ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26 16:15           ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-05-26 17:14             ` Matt Turner
2013-05-26 17:19             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-26  7:54     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-25 17:00 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-25 17:14   ` Carlos Silva
2013-05-26  7:15   ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26  7:44     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-26  7:45     ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26  9:59       ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-25 18:13 ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-25 19:53   ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-25 19:58     ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-25 21:55       ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-25 19:59     ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26  7:00     ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26  7:22     ` Tiziano Müller
2013-05-26  7:46       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-26  7:49       ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26  7:00   ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26  7:37 ` [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd (was: Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)) Michał Górny
2013-05-26  8:32   ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-26  9:49     ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26 10:12       ` Robert David
2013-05-26 10:31         ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 11:12           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-26 11:31           ` Robert David
2013-05-26 11:47             ` [gentoo-dev] Reusing systemd unit file format / forking systemd Luca Barbato
2013-05-26 10:23   ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-26 11:15     ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26 11:59       ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-26 13:35         ` Sergei Trofimovich
2013-05-26 14:22           ` Luca Barbato
     [not found] <51A1A294.3000609@sporkbox.us>
2013-05-26  6:24 ` Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) Daniel Campbell
2013-05-26  6:55   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-26  7:37     ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-26  7:56     ` Pacho Ramos

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