From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81C71381F3 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 20:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6D26E0C39; Sat, 25 May 2013 20:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B61BE0C35 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 20:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (178-37-163-206.adsl.inetia.pl [178.37.163.206]) (using SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 301D633E034; Sat, 25 May 2013 20:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 22:45:17 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?B?TWljaGGzIEfzcm55?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: chithanh@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) Message-ID: <20130525224517.0ff6fea9@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <51A118D2.4010303@gentoo.org> References: <20130525184830.5bb25483@gentoo.org> <51A118D2.4010303@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.18; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA512; boundary="Sig_/o8d0zPlGNm/iLvFLqrrOMOu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 4a8e3ecd-ea62-408a-925a-ac4f95b8bb4a X-Archives-Hash: 3915bb1c5504b221235d0cdf4e35afb2 --Sig_/o8d0zPlGNm/iLvFLqrrOMOu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 25 May 2013 22:02:26 +0200 Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n wrote: > Rich Freeman schrieb: > >> Yet another stand. No offense but I'm afraid it's quite childish of yo= u. > >> I don't understand why you're so proud of it. It's a bit like 'Gentoo > >> will play as I like. If it doesn't, then I will play against Gentoo. > >> And if that doesn't help, I will resent and slam the door, and then > >> write to ml about it.' > >=20 > > Honestly, if people want to have that attitude they might as well stop > > maintaining anything that installs a daemon. As a developer you have > > NO power to prevent somebody else from co-maintaining, and since those > > devs who use systemd are likely to want to have units and they're > > willing to do the work, you can expect somebody to show up and add a > > unit. >=20 > This is why I suggested that in case of uncooperative maintainers and > upstreams, put the systemd unit in an extra package. Like it is done for > selinux policies. If we are to introduce split packages, we should start where doing it where it actually *makes sense*, rather than doing that to work-around stubbornness of uncooperative developers. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/o8d0zPlGNm/iLvFLqrrOMOu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJRoSLhXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ1RUJGMjBGOTk2RkIzQzIyQ0M2RkNBNDBC QUJGMUQ1RkY4QzgxMTBBAAoJELq/HV/4yBEKZssQAKQ+0DYt+hmcdmIS2dzRBWQ4 uuNs/9DdT6hgGVunv/JtXLj0nVKkf7HSJLfuHzRx/5WpEEz0axHD4+IE4W/dcwH6 BCH2Bvi+P8u5mIMycykYbg4VsIG8xjmnk2olBOiAq+JrDrYP0piz7f9gjfAosPeN GRfkCeb67yOpbe6JdI5tqVaFtdXImXcziexPwdA6pSkofZN1M0P4mlKSnOpiefWp t+tI3TXsxIvr7d5ueSGGpLPCv98SgwDlbpky/wcH1jacB5SvOyBo8T5t+sfRICbM E81Je8QSmUU8bxzwMTJug5WriZb2G+AZsXYDd4SuZ7OogWsddGFbfVrnPT7lUkx3 fHJsWqjsYHF2HRUIwkGjDQkmUjixU6O6GbV88ZY9MtIXrfw+u487ekyHf0ltXg1r DRIJar3ikDmhJTypmrHC49jwfkyP4V0bov9g13zNDCxSxD4JIZ115UwtjtCpM17s CgEDH0OBbO0rXBO6sDxVzIcXLkNwo3RCgQ2dR1whBdIthLbyygmiIyJAjC7XemWL lqdCRvkhf8iRmUFdCf2rtBk5ofGsOWxR6HhYyNsx3UAgxqmy/Jghd+oviSqcV6It lwCnlWnL6IHZXwnsuVt31H8nWl6zZ4fug3PTD5U1Uh4c8SDi4+rbsp7FGVV2xlRM EX06pAJrEdktYP/tRL20 =pW0C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/o8d0zPlGNm/iLvFLqrrOMOu--