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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 16:24:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130522162405.150cea39@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan$4111f$a286b427$d577cc1d$eba2c12b@cox.net>

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On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:37:25 +0000 (UTC)
Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh posted on Tue, 21 May 2013 14:50:04 +0100 as
> excerpted:
> > On Tue, 21 May 2013 04:45:12 +0000 (UTC)
> > Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
> >> But the point you're missing is that INSTALL_MASK is NOT a hack.
> > 
> > Sure it is. It's a hack and remains a hack until there's a way of
> > using it without risk of breakage.
> 
> LOL.  Better turn off that computer then.  By your definition it's a 
> hack.  Or at least remove anything gentoo related from it.  That's a
> hack too.  Oh, and that stove and microwave, better throw them away
> too, because leave something cooking too long and... FIRE!  So
> they're hacks too.

That's nonsense, and you know it. There is a big difference between a
carefully designed feature that only breaks if someone screws up, and
something which breaks arbitrarily with no warning. One of the things
about working with computers is that, if something breaks, it's because
someone screwed up. If you really think you can't use your computer
without something breaking, you should carefully consider who is doing
the screwing up.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-05-22 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-01 10:04 [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 10:50 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-01 11:00   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 13:13     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-02  2:49       ` William Hubbs
2013-05-01 13:36   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 13:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 14:14   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 18:52     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 21:40       ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2013-05-01 22:32         ` Matt Turner
2013-05-02  2:11       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-02  2:41         ` Alex Xu
2013-05-01 14:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthew Thode
2013-05-01 14:22   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 14:52 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-01 19:52 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-01 20:32   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 21:14   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02  3:18     ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02  4:26       ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02  5:42         ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 18:05         ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 18:13           ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 19:01             ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 19:15               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 19:30               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-02 19:39               ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 20:25                 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 20:27               ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02 22:55                 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 23:07                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 22:54             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 10:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 12:54   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-05 11:57     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 13:05   ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-04 13:12     ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-05  7:07       ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 16:12     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-05  7:11     ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-07 20:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:39   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:49     ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:53       ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06       ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:34         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 16:27       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 17:57       ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 18:19       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-09  1:48       ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09  2:01         ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-09  9:56           ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-09 16:44             ` Michał Górny
2013-05-09 16:53               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-09 17:01               ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-08 15:39   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 15:49     ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:14         ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:58           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:21       ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 17:01         ` Arun Raghavan
2013-05-09  2:18           ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09  3:07             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-09 11:00             ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:07         ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 18:24         ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 15:52     ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 16:59   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:08   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:18     ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 17:32       ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:37       ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-10  4:50         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-10  7:45         ` [gentoo-dev] " Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-10 10:09           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-11 16:55             ` Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-11 21:38               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-14  8:41           ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 12:17             ` Michał Górny
2013-05-15 13:41               ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-15 14:01                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-16  2:39                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-15 14:08                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-05-16 14:02                   ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 14:16                 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-15 15:00                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-16  0:27                   ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16  1:28                     ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16  6:58                       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 15:03                 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 15:10                   ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 16:59                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 17:25                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 18:11                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 19:02                           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 19:05                             ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 20:56                     ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-15 21:01                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-15 23:56                         ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16  0:50                       ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 17:26                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-16  5:20                     ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 18:18                 ` waltdnes
2013-05-15 22:38                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 21:07                     ` waltdnes
2013-05-16  1:20                   ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16  1:31                     ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-17  0:58                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-18  3:45                         ` William Hubbs
2013-05-18  9:41                           ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-18 17:02                           ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-18 17:38                             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-18 17:47                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-18 19:23                                 ` Carlos Silva
2013-05-19 12:59                                   ` Michael Mol
2013-05-19 13:23                                     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-19 14:04                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19 14:34                                         ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-19 18:02                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-19 18:05                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21  3:03                                             ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-21  3:34                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21 13:17                                                 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-22 21:39                                                 ` Re: " Daniel Campbell
2013-05-22 22:39                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-23  6:06                                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-23  6:41                                                   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-23  8:02                                                     ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-23  9:46                                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23 19:19                                                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-05-21  4:45                                               ` Duncan
2013-05-21 13:50                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 13:57                                                   ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 14:02                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 14:35                                                       ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 21:37                                                   ` Duncan
2013-05-21 22:52                                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22  3:06                                                       ` Duncan
2013-05-22  8:46                                                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 15:19                                                           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-22 15:24                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2013-05-23  5:30                                                       ` Duncan
2013-05-23  6:57                                                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23  7:12                                                           ` Duncan
2013-05-21  7:03                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-21  7:10                                                 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 15:21                                                 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-22 18:32                                                   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 18:42                                                   ` Zac Medico
2013-05-22 19:17                                                     ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-22 23:38                                                     ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-24  6:32                                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-24  6:48                                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-21 10:09                                               ` Albert Hopkins
2013-05-21 10:22                                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-24  6:26                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19  3:36                             ` William Hubbs
2013-05-21 12:25                           ` [gentoo-dev] TLDNR; " Steven J. Long
2013-05-16  2:30                 ` Re: [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell
2013-06-07 11:52                 ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:04                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 12:24                     ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:34                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 14:57                         ` Olav Vitters

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