Am Samstag, 18. Mai 2013, 19:02:12 schrieb Walter Dnes:

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> 
> > Having a package to install every systemd unit in existence just
> > clutters the end user's system and makes it harder to tell which
> > units are actually valid.
> 
>   Yet openrc users are supposed to accept having their systems cluttered
> with systemd units.
> 

This is getting more and more ridiculous. 

Next, systemd users will (correctly) remark that their systems are 
unnecessarily cluttered with openrc init scripts. 

Then, I may remark that my system is unnecessarily cluttered by quite some 
cmake modules that can search for libraries I'll never install. 

Not to speak of the boost sub-libraries that none of my installed packages 
uses.

Etc etc etc.

Please get a grip.

> 2) I suggested keying on a "systemd" USE flag, to inform portage whether
> or not to install systemd units.  I was told that
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198901 forbade using it that
> way.  And therefore systemd config files would be installed regardless
> of flags.  Therefore udev/eudev don't have "systemd" flags.  But both
> have "openrc" flags, and will not run OK on an openrc machine without
> the "openrc" flag.

The decision was made long ago. Use flags are not the correct way to control 
solely the installation of a few small files. 

If you really care (i.e. embedded systems), this is what install masks are 
for. Then just modify your /etc/make.conf accordingly. Believe me, that goes 
much faster than writing another discussion mail.

-- 

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/