From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84A91381F3 for ; Thu, 9 May 2013 16:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9334E07F6; Thu, 9 May 2013 16:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC9B7E07C5 for ; Thu, 9 May 2013 16:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (77-255-0-165.adsl.inetia.pl [77.255.0.165]) (using SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9678333DE0C; Thu, 9 May 2013 16:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 18:44:44 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?B?TWljaGGzIEfzcm55?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: basile@opensource.dyc.edu Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users Message-ID: <20130509184444.24514e95@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <518B72DA.50501@opensource.dyc.edu> References: <20130509014836.GA1968@waltdnes.org> <20130509040134.1e784795@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <518B72DA.50501@opensource.dyc.edu> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA512; boundary="Sig_/=lqevwJUxOSWhL0J1=/EQRV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 55321cc3-c3b4-422d-baa7-b26884a0d436 X-Archives-Hash: d863942978d08ebb1cd5e5055f879025 --Sig_/=lqevwJUxOSWhL0J1=/EQRV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 09 May 2013 05:56:42 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > On 05/08/2013 10:01 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > On Wed, 8 May 2013 21:48:36 -0400 > > "Walter Dnes" wrote: > > > >> Wouldn't the "systemd" USE flag be the appropriate one to key on? > >> The description in /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc says... > >> > >> systemd - Enable use of systemd-specific libraries and features like > >> socket activation or session tracking > >> > >> Surely, units files qualify as "systemd-specific features". > > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D198901 >=20 > People keep saying disk space is not an issue but it is on embedded=20 > systems. Even 4k or one i-node. So the choice to not install unit=20 > files is important. I'm sympathetic to the idea of reducing use flags=20 > and I would really not like to see USE=3D"openrc" or "systemd" everywhere= .=20 > Without having tested, it does seem that INSTALL_MASK is sufficient.=20 > I recommend going that route and documenting it. We should probably consider extending the INSTALL_MASK a bit. A good idea would be to allow repositories to pre-define names for INSTALL_MASK (alike USE flags) and allow portage to control them over those names. A similar variant is implemented in app-portage/install-mask which maps names obtained from ${FILESDIR} to paths. --=20 Best regards, Micha=B3 G=F3rny --Sig_/=lqevwJUxOSWhL0J1=/EQRV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJRi9J/XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ1RUJGMjBGOTk2RkIzQzIyQ0M2RkNBNDBC QUJGMUQ1RkY4QzgxMTBBAAoJELq/HV/4yBEK7sgQAMktuUB5P7t/fv0Imo7lV2NW 7nBTlXDuXPpNXdkRH6sZVILkQ9qx0NyPIaNaph8zzgM88h5GQJVtlYeXh/mODgwq k4ZP73fco1cqUhYfSV2/Kv57gHQF6/lSMg8SQ0kN+TdD1S0PKBfYn2UDtksO7Eel tqjR3P0HvRHeYAjpKiiD7Le2dgHJcBmeDc2zTFBrp7LDEDQzYMngOBX2CCjiLENn lnQHNIEljQYqG5DwqPoCirOmgeDw264edSAhO//fXgQDTJXFO09WWM73WuxcaNRk shT7ZSygn9ZBuimIqUtcDRxOEhZPTcr2lK5dNg+DX+scecsGQIDdnvOPqcEaJALe J33ofhdwYvVkRsAwaYKBcg5pW47ajrVBG3budyttm4bH4EqkVnq6Vh0w6cHyqoN/ mFbBPREqmydMgEhtBRK7R9M9KZ8RsH1d3QK0/TR5vuXDfnjUAEqHWN/d3SPXsjqh su1/b6P/W17PVP7f4Zppb1inKRH1XselDLfP+JXPhTQ8tgDkThupnvNqTbicjjUP gL/GakE6XWrADuetR9Ui4nHe+clfx2L6tAfWv7XVbOVS91OpX8c+S4Z0WZ8mdLG/ nM126o1f7KnkVbbnGNDDwQe49XKCjA601OzekPPUUpDiB11f7pZ3fZB210u+cx+G 0qY1Rhxf8jsKwILAlPxa =moFb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/=lqevwJUxOSWhL0J1=/EQRV--