From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D021381F3 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE5D0E0C87; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:54:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A83E8E09FE for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id n12so4210791oag.25 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:54:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=mYITWW0JRTGbwn6ls+WyLscwaajLMA905xDzMinYoxI=; b=qGGSUv3K8S60Fj1jpbhjFvT/dg65AVZpOWENt3WxKKXnspxMrRDay73hzAZnzEaRBO ApCx/1Z7ApXkC2iMIVuieeOvohwo0JP1auSb1+c/v50i82qleizqIZbG8f6BnzfpXlsV u3Ruy2g7Nf/vs6wcs+i8rD6mEH+krySNkbYC61h4gg0BLQL1uvAi5/uFcWCnS71w7BBL d8AbAPHgcTLKX/7r0macYRx52H4t5zZ+k9r6rgap1s55LUSFDKNGDSpEp4/+ipVRUJP8 HIafq5xWmUkW2MT/xD+h1muc8b1VsEXy4nMDMFc+N4a0R4j6yewqY/1TeJfA60SDW/Ou qy5Q== X-Received: by 10.182.219.136 with SMTP id po8mr3703487obc.75.1367002443900; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rn6sm5679246oeb.0.2013.04.26.11.54.00 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:53:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:53:59 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Message-ID: <20130426185359.GA19527@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> <51780F2D.7060007@gentoo.org> <20130424172323.GB2323@linux1> <201304241334.37807.vapier@gentoo.org> <20130424175407.GA2404@linux1> <517AB8EA.6040908@gentoo.org> <517AC421.9000009@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <517AC421.9000009@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 1df4c024-7c4a-4a6f-a54e-ed92851e9bfb X-Archives-Hash: 91df58d57afeadac88e91686abba0ce0 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 02:14:57PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 >=20 > On 26/04/13 02:12 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 07:27:06PM +0200, Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher > > Nguy=E1=BB=85n wrote: > >> William Hubbs schrieb: > >>> if we keep a dependency for a while, even behind something > >>> like IUSE=3D"+oldnet", when we drop it, people will still be hit > >>> if they do emerge --depclean before they emerge gentoo-oldnet. > >>=20 > >> In my opinion USE flags should toggle dependencies only in=20 > >> metapackages or rare exceptions. I suggest to include > >> gentoo-oldnet (or whatever name you choose for it) in the @system > >> set once it is stable, and until then be a hard dependency of > >> OpenRC. > > Please note that openrc itself is NOT in the @system set. > >=20 > > sys-apps/baselayout is, and has PDEPEND on openrc. > >=20 >=20 > Are we all OK with putting the new package in PDEPEND in baselayout > alongside the openrc dep, then? Seems that would suffice, plus would > allow users that really don't want it to package.provides it away .... No, because the goal is o remove the pdepend from baselayout eventually [1]. William [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D409385 >=20 >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) >=20 > iF4EAREIAAYFAlF6xCAACgkQ2ugaI38ACPAX6AD/WBhfhw/jV0UjyyjCgsDStHw1 > WPPRJfMpICU+wT3j8J0BAKOEU+3pWXDif9jBS8X4IA2Ccyq2q9vUAxwQS4WXdgdA > =3D8KK6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >=20 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlF6zUcACgkQblQW9DDEZTgt0wCeMVR/7QjNvTQyYh2sGBBHTjab /oEAn0G9eZYt9pkMyruHliUDHtabTPXO =6vIM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd--