From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9207C1381F3 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C4F4E0BBB; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1217BE0BB2 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AE033DC38 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:07:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:07:18 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.8.3; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> <20130424191737.GA2557@linux1> <51797F68.1050807@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51797F68.1050807@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2942163.B1h6SEBobj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201304251907.19598.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 4e185b40-c780-48cb-962e-28327536e8f0 X-Archives-Hash: fea062298d5260c3fbb4a9e0a6f2d89a --nextPart2942163.B1h6SEBobj Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 25 April 2013 15:09:28 vivo75@gmail.com wrote: > On 04/24/13 21:17, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:16:06 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > >>> This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* scrip= ts > >>> will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate package > >>> that includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet. > >>=20 > >> Aside all the other, please don't name it like this :). It's just feels > >> wrong to start new and supposedly beneficial project and name it 'old' > >> like something you just thrown away off the main tree. > >=20 > > The name is also per robbat2's request. I asked him about other names, > > but he specifically wanted oldnet in the name. > >=20 > > A little bit of historical background may be in order here. > >=20 > > In a nutshell, it is called old because Roy wanted to deprecate the > > whole thing eventually and switch us over to the newnet scripts that > > OpenRC has. > > name. > >=20 > > We thought about killing off newnet entirely for a while in OpenRC, but > > I have since found that people do use it. It is more similar to what > > happens on the *bsd side, and it works well for simple setups. >=20 > s/it works well for simple setups/it work wonderfully for very complex > setups/ >=20 > It can mimic very closely the 'ip' command, making it easy to test on > commandline and just copy and paste in conf.d/net. > At the same time it benefit from a lot of howtos and tutorials written > for sys-apps/iproute2 >=20 > "old"net is the best network manager out there including all major distro. William is talking about newnet when he says "works well for simple setups" =2Dmike --nextPart2942163.B1h6SEBobj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJRebcnAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBNEEP/2HP71ZUfBfu9xJbvotReP1L iJycHLYX8MgPDBEbxFaE4PHsTDYOfgl95EnYAWt/9hHi57DGj4HQM9DZ+5L92xHX MZAe7q9jyCDQGp4zY7aGigkSgI+iLiIo/6LWgQ12J3nkEp1P3HWwHNiCJmAcf1zD bpnXw2poY8VKmvF93SUDYca0Fumjd9SxKo1x9+73WglTR/ZfB2wIH38cumYtL3Ac SzkgoFFV4wG/g1hkcATokFSI7qk7WF0NML8vyPyOdEY0BEWEg+QfPceXcF8hvdij DOFhukybSqX5fx/P3oM39c2fdYZPypmGK6BgWtEHBLGqz8t++YmNMM7r9kzpbRmC e93MGYEcuIMQ9RhtxouHnkblkKqDj9dMRRG9xyBQloYBX4t5w/p8ufhi5wJMxMvQ g4E4fvzMNT0FRzANpmLiz3hI1L81hzI+AXbswMsLjAWHJirKNuMKTBqOr7fjvGjF TfkuM5ikb/w0b6egTGSalM7JyB1prJTj5nULjnvAW0ckQWu38X2b9GHCjrcNfb3s zZBzpdVP9bDtd3WiFcn+DsNFSJHTtflPrGVnIzTJLHFtWAc8yPhuhhCX2II9qPyL 87RbIOTPGRQE4pyJX1uzkY8upwoE+Kgb6m8tc60Cosb3spk2NBo9WtPULFBy5rCf QmcReaL7ofotvQ/j4bj8 =RJZ4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2942163.B1h6SEBobj--