Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC

[William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>]

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:32:44PM -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
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> On 04/24/2013 07:17 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 06:34:46PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
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> >>> Considering our default configuration ships sshd (an argument we don't
> >>> need to rehash here), it seems a bit silly to not ship networking
> >>> support by default.  I'd rather not do it as part of the system set,
> >>> though that would be consistent with what we're doing with ssh, and it
> >>> is still override-able.
> >>   To handle the various possible cases, maybe we need a "virtual/net" as
> >> part of the system set, which can be satisfied by either oldnet or
> >> newnet or whatever.  The install ISO will have a basic working network
> >> stack (IPV4+IPV6).  After the initial install, the admin can do
> >> whatever.  Maybe even invoke package.provided.
> > 
> > This would actually be cleaner than a bogus dependency in OpenRC.
> > I would probably call it virtual/network-manager though.
> > 
> You can't call it virtual/network-manager, that calls to mind, you know,
> net-misc/networkmanager.  That's just too confusing imho.  I wouldn't
> object to virtual/net, or pretty much anything else that isn't
> confusing.  The net scripts are not a network manager, networkmanager,
> wicd, even wpa_supplicant would be things I would consider to be network
> managers.

But the oldnet scripts do run wpa_supplicant, dhcp clients, etc, for
each interface they manage.

Newnet doesn't even try that, it just manages static interfaces and
assumes that you will use a dhcp client or something like wpa_supplicant
in standalone mode to control your interfaces.

William

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