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From: "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:34:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130424223446.GA12947@waltdnes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_nRzdDzCYdmWgAL5EwhsV6wLzY0OQvog--P7hnOCPeS_Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote

> Considering our default configuration ships sshd (an argument we don't
> need to rehash here), it seems a bit silly to not ship networking
> support by default.  I'd rather not do it as part of the system set,
> though that would be consistent with what we're doing with ssh, and it
> is still override-able.

  We're talking two different items here...
1) Necessary functionality for the minimal-install ISO to work
2) The installed software on a running system

  Item 1) is constrained by the real world... do what you have to do to
create a functional install ISO

  Item 2) will be due to customizations done by admins for their
specific needs.  There's no way to predict how Joe Admin is going to
integrate the various available software services.

  To handle the various possible cases, maybe we need a "virtual/net" as
part of the system set, which can be satisfied by either oldnet or
newnet or whatever.  The install ISO will have a basic working network
stack (IPV4+IPV6).  After the initial install, the admin can do
whatever.  Maybe even invoke package.provided.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-24 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-24 16:16 [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC William Hubbs
2013-04-24 16:45 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 17:01   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:30     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 21:00     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 16:58 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-24 17:23   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:34     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 17:54       ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 18:16         ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-24 18:30           ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 21:01             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26  8:41               ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26  8:58                 ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26 11:20                   ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 16:24                     ` »Q«
2013-04-24 22:34           ` Walter Dnes [this message]
2013-04-24 23:17             ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2013-04-24 23:32               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-25  0:05                 ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25  1:10                 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25  1:39                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-25  2:12                     ` Zac Medico
2013-04-25 18:10               ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-25 18:27                 ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2013-04-25 18:54                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 19:08                   ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 18:46         ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 22:18           ` Patrick McLean
2013-04-26 17:27         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-04-26 18:12           ` Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 18:14             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-26 18:53               ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25  3:13       ` Alec Warner
2013-04-25  3:32         ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 19:00 ` Michał Górny
2013-04-24 19:17   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 19:09     ` vivo75
2013-04-25 23:07       ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-26  8:44     ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-25 16:50 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2013-04-25 16:58   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 17:13     ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:17       ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:18         ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:23           ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:23       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-25 22:15       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-04-25 22:51         ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 23:12           ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 23:15           ` Ambroz Bizjak
2013-04-26  8:37           ` Duncan
2013-04-25 23:49 ` [gentoo-dev] OldNet out of OpenRC: as the requester Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 10:13   ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-04-26 14:14 ` [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Luca Barbato

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