From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81821381F3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4884EE0A60; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B85EE0A5A for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id to1so2638597ieb.11 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:17:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=H3ax5GeuBZzyguNNgLMlCxvRMu2qkZbWRXbt3NbulJY=; b=kgWyvl95vavWySLkaROSqf+0ukCAp3zN/AjrZ5RoIrvxMU+jPrmTqcK8gO1svysGyR xsWp0u62lehqSx1i3Sgiq5BTETpiAmLM8oEk8CVyfA61SXXZn40tjYc2DPcaOMayNaPb 8xNRpf0FqEPzk1WlAdr921Cc4XQ/M/6vl538tw/O7p2hOUsxL9eZKz2KBLw5K3FVtiyh XMN1LGSO8seuYq8W9dpq7bccsZyNSxZ3pWtKK7CtWwKD+/8FBKX+87OlRe3beqXcfqTT mgpPWeCU00aYotDjvMRyz04vyp0bsXZFjCNUL5PC04g56dDWhnMBk/7ITTA3+1rWgYsh zAsQ== X-Received: by 10.50.128.16 with SMTP id nk16mr15961883igb.15.1366831062586; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y5sm7135272igg.7.2013.04.24.12.17.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:17:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:17:37 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= Cc: gentoo development , robbat2@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Message-ID: <20130424191737.GA2557@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= , gentoo development , robbat2@gentoo.org References: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> <20130424210017.040a8fa3@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130424210017.040a8fa3@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 574591b7-309e-4cb7-b2ed-0ee90cc19485 X-Archives-Hash: 9bb09aef4d4e998aa00df8fbb510bdff --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:16:06 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: >=20 > > This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* scripts > > will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate package that > > includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet. >=20 > Aside all the other, please don't name it like this :). It's just feels > wrong to start new and supposedly beneficial project and name it 'old' > like something you just thrown away off the main tree. The name is also per robbat2's request. I asked him about other names, but he specifically wanted oldnet in the name. A little bit of historical background may be in order here. In a nutshell, it is called old because Roy wanted to deprecate the whole thing eventually and switch us over to the newnet scripts that OpenRC has. name. We thought about killing off newnet entirely for a while in OpenRC, but I have since found that people do use it. It is more similar to what happens on the *bsd side, and it works well for simple setups. Also, I think it is more like what some other distros do for their network interfaces. The primary disadvantages of newnet are that services can't depend on a single network interface, and it is not possible to stop/start a single interface. William --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlF4L9EACgkQblQW9DDEZTglOACgvSaBecsa5Fa0Twe+ID7051z9 PXEAoJqfVFOgGLRYY3G5tOIEkFHVYSqW =NMHp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu--