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From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo development <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>, robbat2@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:17:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130424191737.GA2557@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130424210017.040a8fa3@gentoo.org>

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:16:06 -0500
> William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* scripts
> > will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate package that
> > includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet.
> 
> Aside all the other, please don't name it like this :). It's just feels
> wrong to start new and supposedly beneficial project and name it 'old'
> like something you just thrown away off the main tree.

The name is also per robbat2's request. I asked him about other names,
but he specifically wanted oldnet in the name.

A little bit of historical background may be in order here.

In a nutshell, it is called old because Roy wanted to deprecate the
whole thing eventually and switch us over to the newnet scripts that
OpenRC has.
name.

We thought about killing off newnet entirely for a while in OpenRC, but
I have since found that people do use it. It is more similar to what
happens on the *bsd side, and it works well for simple setups.

Also, I think it is more like what some other distros do for their
network interfaces.

The primary disadvantages of newnet are that services can't depend on a
single network interface, and it is not possible to stop/start a single
interface.

William


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-24 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-24 16:16 [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC William Hubbs
2013-04-24 16:45 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 17:01   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:30     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 21:00     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 16:58 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-24 17:23   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:34     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 17:54       ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 18:16         ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-24 18:30           ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 21:01             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26  8:41               ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26  8:58                 ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26 11:20                   ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 16:24                     ` »Q«
2013-04-24 22:34           ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2013-04-24 23:17             ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 23:32               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-25  0:05                 ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25  1:10                 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25  1:39                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-25  2:12                     ` Zac Medico
2013-04-25 18:10               ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-25 18:27                 ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2013-04-25 18:54                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 19:08                   ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 18:46         ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 22:18           ` Patrick McLean
2013-04-26 17:27         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-04-26 18:12           ` Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 18:14             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-26 18:53               ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25  3:13       ` Alec Warner
2013-04-25  3:32         ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 19:00 ` Michał Górny
2013-04-24 19:17   ` William Hubbs [this message]
2013-04-25 19:09     ` vivo75
2013-04-25 23:07       ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-26  8:44     ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-25 16:50 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2013-04-25 16:58   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 17:13     ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:17       ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:18         ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:23           ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:23       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-25 22:15       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-04-25 22:51         ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 23:12           ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 23:15           ` Ambroz Bizjak
2013-04-26  8:37           ` Duncan
2013-04-25 23:49 ` [gentoo-dev] OldNet out of OpenRC: as the requester Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 10:13   ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-04-26 14:14 ` [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Luca Barbato

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