Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC

[William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>]

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:58:21PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 24/04/13 12:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> > it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out
> > into their own package separate from OpenRC so that they can be
> > developed independently. I am looking at doing this for OpenRC
> > 0.12, which I hope to release soon.
> > 
> > This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.*
> > scripts will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate
> > package that includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet.
> > 
> > My plan is  to write a newsitem when OpenRC 0.12 is released 
> > telling users this and that they will have to emerge gentoo-oldnet
> > to get the gentoo networking scripts or turn on the newnet (maybe
> > I'll change this to net) use flag to get OpenRC's network scripts
> > installed and put ewarns in the ebuild if this use flag is turned
> > off.
> > 
> > I feel that a newsitem and ewarns in the OpenRC ebuild cover live 
> > systems well. In a nutshell, users should pay attention to their
> > news items and ewarns.
> > 
> > On the other hand, some are suggesting that I should add a runtime 
> > dependency to OpenRC so that it pulls in gentoo-oldnet. Since
> > OpenRC doesn't need gentoo-oldnet in order to run, I feel like this
> > would be abusing dependencies.
> > 
> > Does anyone have any thoughts?
> > 
> > William
> > 
> 
> 
> Current users should be able to do a -uDN and still have their
> existing systems work as-is.  Whether you do this via a static
> dependency or one controlled by a use flag (and be sure use flag
> defaults would have oldnet installed by default) is up to you.
 
 The issue is that OpenRC does not have any kind of dependency on
 gentoo-oldnet at all. There will be a separate loopback script in OpenRC
 so it is possible to run OpenRC on a system without the oldnet or
 newnet scripts. In fact, this is a completely valid configuration.

OpenRC doesn't "link" to gentoo-oldnet in any way, so there is no
dependency.

The way I read the dev manual [1], a newsitem and postinst messages are
the way to go for somethinglike this.

William

[1] http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/use-flags/index.html

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