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[76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fl7sm1474995obb.0.2013.04.24.10.01.40 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:01:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:01:39 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: Diego Elio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Petten=F2?= Cc: gentoo development , robbat2@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Message-ID: <20130424170139.GA2323@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: Diego Elio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Petten=F2?= , gentoo development , robbat2@gentoo.org References: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: d57d839c-27c7-4c1d-b93e-08015008ea0f X-Archives-Hash: a9f74fd4160a674e5b5f807c25a940f6 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 05:45:04PM +0100, Diego Elio Petten=C3=B2 wrote: > Please don't do this. It sounds to me like a stupid move, what are you > trying to accomplish? You already use Git/GitHub... > Diego Elio Petten=C3=B2 =E2=80=94 Flameeyes > flameeyes@flameeyes.eu =E2=80=94 http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ >=20 robbat2 is the one who made the request. He wants to do a couple of things: 1) he wants to be able to have independent oldnet releases so he can get more features into the oldnet scripts and have his own development cycle. 2) He is also interested in working on making the oldnet scripts able to run under systemd. William > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:16 PM, William Hubbs wrot= e: > > All, > > > > it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out into > > their own package separate from OpenRC so that they can be developed > > independently. I am looking at doing this for OpenRC 0.12, which I hope > > to release soon. > > > > This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* scripts > > will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate package that > > includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet. > > > > My plan is to write a newsitem when OpenRC 0.12 is released > > telling users this and that they will have to emerge gentoo-oldnet to > > get the gentoo networking scripts or turn on the newnet (maybe I'll > > change this to net) use flag to get OpenRC's network scripts installed > > and put ewarns in the ebuild if this use flag is turned off. > > > > I feel that a newsitem and ewarns in the OpenRC ebuild cover live > > systems well. In a nutshell, users should pay attention to their news > > items and ewarns. > > > > On the other hand, some are suggesting that I should add a runtime > > dependency to OpenRC so that it pulls in gentoo-oldnet. Since OpenRC > > doesn't need gentoo-oldnet in order to run, I feel like this would be > > abusing dependencies. > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts? > > > > William > > >=20 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlF4D/MACgkQblQW9DDEZTiB1gCcCDUMqX/cZpPxkB5fKRUt/mpm HL0AnjYdXQVUgBpgA7JTJJ5SRw/GRCka =35Wg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx--