From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7D11381F3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1810FE09EC; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com (mail-ob0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3892DE0935 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id uk5so1695534obc.11 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:16:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; bh=5L3GQB7TIMQKQ7eb61TrZZOx2lFNOqRN8ie3ee3/3KA=; b=RmxYmlfzXeeABWvKATLiDStYwTdgT/sCelgmBNAB+SLuhiAJJGnA+6UQuHBDvV3Pd4 qZ5JUAJfh/Jx23MsBCfzmPnhSZ32NDl3akPOeWhCFFYU15uVIlAbVsRHsgUm3TCXWvdP D+3pRqZIV6/QwU7JA7y/KCBR+epiVAikmVd6LwFkH3HMPSlr6TTHpM9JM6KWCMrk0RC3 XoB7WnByjEIcsbMN97NV695ZrGc9aNo0KUZ2yxsOsg02nnflhBNEgaohzEjk1LW6CsKi 3XVRXPrIDa+hneREeU0QQitGR7Y5ScAjs8sL1deA+O1Fxbjg5jBXAN+w6p8FWEdstXzU dC5w== X-Received: by 10.182.84.135 with SMTP id z7mr13766546oby.35.1366820171390; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id wl10sm1362676obc.1.2013.04.24.09.16.08 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:16:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:16:06 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo development Subject: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Message-ID: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo development Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 4910f218-1792-4153-8d8d-0ae3abf66c77 X-Archives-Hash: 660ef6736de6ce9dc67c234b9ac32844 --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline All, it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out into their own package separate from OpenRC so that they can be developed independently. I am looking at doing this for OpenRC 0.12, which I hope to release soon. This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* scripts will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate package that includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet. My plan is to write a newsitem when OpenRC 0.12 is released telling users this and that they will have to emerge gentoo-oldnet to get the gentoo networking scripts or turn on the newnet (maybe I'll change this to net) use flag to get OpenRC's network scripts installed and put ewarns in the ebuild if this use flag is turned off. I feel that a newsitem and ewarns in the OpenRC ebuild cover live systems well. In a nutshell, users should pay attention to their news items and ewarns. On the other hand, some are suggesting that I should add a runtime dependency to OpenRC so that it pulls in gentoo-oldnet. Since OpenRC doesn't need gentoo-oldnet in order to run, I feel like this would be abusing dependencies. Does anyone have any thoughts? William --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlF4BUYACgkQblQW9DDEZThVhgCgrqZX+vgTncpK6VZvk9Zwutzd U5gAn0PG4uAEquyqvenZz365ZUj/KptF =tJIi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X--