From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089EB1381F3 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F327E0ABF; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gerard.telenet-ops.be (gerard.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.48]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB2AE0A9F for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by gerard.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id Pmt61l0052khLEN0Hmt6J6; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:53:06 +0200 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:52:03 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing? Message-ID: <20130414125203.1d068907@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <1365934008.6940.12.camel@localhost> References: <20130412234105.407563f4@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130414085539.7501576a@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130414022418.45e1ed85@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> <201304141023.05880.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20130414040854.7f672faa@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> <1365934008.6940.12.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/V=UPH3S76WHwt3DVQdXWmL9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 8c440742-cbc7-4426-8f5b-cfcb374e98d8 X-Archives-Hash: 69e564eace9ff0d3e302bc4f597a351d --Sig_/V=UPH3S76WHwt3DVQdXWmL9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:06:48 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > The messages are shown the first time by elog *and* saved > in /usr/share/doc/*/README.gentoo, adding the advantage of users > having that docs always present without needing to re-emerge the > package or manually read ebuilds How are users aware that such file is installed? It's hidden in front of the huge list (since 'src' comes after 'share'); so, they won't see it in there unless they have a huge scroll back buffer or look into the log. Or look into the directory although they may assume there to be no such thing and not even look. Can we please make the users aware of it being installed? if ! [[ -n "${HIDE_INFO_MSG}" ]] ; then=20 einfo "Useful documentation can be found in /usr/share/doc/${PF}" fi May not be the exact wording one would want, but at least people are then aware where they need to look for more information. The use of "einfo" should give the advantage of not filling the elog file, while still appearing for the user upon an emerge. If people don't agree with this apporach, we may want to solve the actual problem in a different manner; one could write `eselect elog` just like we have `eselect news`, that would force them to process through the log messages and just not simply ignore them. Listing that there are unread elog messages upon the next emerge may be interesting. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/V=UPH3S76WHwt3DVQdXWmL9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRaopTAAoJEJWyH81tNOV97YsH/3pEgvOY32uOm9cMfWrRit/j ImGEvROc7bQuiAaZnUoTC3mSaJx+Gy1EOdWXksORjlwrGpnpTETPlEYze000Rut9 fDCt63hdpL89zwXH3sg3eYzLKgc036kIFlcxi3niUpYmGedkQsK6lXaq6Xg/DYa0 TXYgXAIVA8iyMjkSKzqY6YiWWZi4g/P2eCaCK0ap+ykcmaHepiPgmVpjjIl77/ns ufyOi+tiJ6XBM0hh27XSMuvGk6kf8rmyR2Rj9E19J84fDaNG6o5XparHYcP1yz90 4SFKMMD/huzHmRyGtrcKhgAhNFOebIzOSFnoPwX4u8QnjvBuOzFVy9odf5plors= =L7uE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/V=UPH3S76WHwt3DVQdXWmL9--