From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891591381F3 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26A28E0863; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35C1CE084A for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2A433DC2D for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:58:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.353 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.353 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.022, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.373, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BaFR9UQ1WVO0 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FF7033BE3D for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1URJhX-0002lA-Bk for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:58:23 +0200 Received: from 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca ([71.17.69.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:58:23 +0200 Received: from dirtyepic by 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:58:23 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Ryan Hill Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing? Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 04:08:54 -0600 Organization: Gentoo Message-ID: <20130414040854.7f672faa@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> References: <20130412234105.407563f4@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130414085539.7501576a@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130414022418.45e1ed85@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> <201304141023.05880.dilfridge@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA512; boundary="Sig_/qb1XsPdKtPDKL3TR3IWKht3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Archives-Salt: 53ebc73c-0f9b-4ac6-8a8f-94cc511b11a8 X-Archives-Hash: e193579727799c4c16374bd754c796df --Sig_/qb1XsPdKtPDKL3TR3IWKht3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:23:00 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013, 10:24:18 schrieb Ryan Hill: > > > > Personally I think that the entire idea of only displaying messages on = the > > first install is completely asinine. What exactly is the benefit? Were > > users complaining that we were being too helpful and they'd like us to > > hide important messages in random places? >=20 > No. They are just not reading it when the only new and relevant message i= s=20 > drowned in repetitive spam. So the solution is to not display them at all? New messages won't be print= ed unless the maintainer uses REPLACING_VERSIONS, in which case you get exactly the same behaviour as now, ie. "drowned in repetitive spam". All this does= is reduce the chance of the user ever seeing important information. If they happen to miss it the first time they're SOL. Are cosmetics really a bigger concern than keeping users informed? --=20 gcc-porting toolchain, wxwidgets @ gentoo.org --Sig_/qb1XsPdKtPDKL3TR3IWKht3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJRaoA3AAoJEO04vUmVeoRjv4AH/jM6YItZ6qH8uLxgrWpimhpu OynGZ8uPdTWckCWldfADLwYfFFEld4Ddqlkabc76d9TxMx3scXOaL9m1PgkYRvBp wOumPae9fOxP7qINK5HwFwwjz1smUijP+vYviiHPavp91RTUPc24bDyOQIvRbdKY bg5NWoNdMGbwAe1c+FB/Rr9WglBDKwXVAkz5M/T9u9Wpt9CsTK86VlM0SouhyyN1 kW0e1jDLa0HVwdvNYxd4vrwIrYg/5w2Dh9NdMdbJoQ2Kzjz89I8T1LiVcN/cyrNv a8uMeTvaKPrFyZWX+AkbYBDO5lh+jG+mn0s6ATv7nCoc7gR9EkOZl29ge0z/1oQ= =vP57 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/qb1XsPdKtPDKL3TR3IWKht3--