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From: Peter Stuge <peter@stuge.se>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-text/cuneiform
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 14:40:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130324134043.14941.qmail@stuge.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <514EED78.2030601@gentoo.org>

Markos Chandras wrote:
> The masks are sort of announcements as you have 30 days to revert that
> decision.

You don't seem to recognize the quite significant psychological
impact of you having already made the decision, compared to, say,
having an actually inclusive package removal process.

Bugzilla does not count as inclusive in this case.

I mean something like a process where users who have this package
installed are notified about the change in status, as opposed to
having to monitor a developer mailing list or portage.mask in order
to get those news. It would probably be a part of emerge --sync.

I think that might do far more good than any web page.

You might argue that such a thing is completely outside your
department, but please consider that what you do can't be seen
in isolation, because users don't care at all about the isolated
particulars which result in their package being masked and cleaned,
they just see that the package is gone one day. You should care
because what you do is the trigger for that user experience.

Improving UX should be your priority too, even if it isn't formally
part of what you do. (Should be everyone's priority.)


//Peter


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-24 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-22 23:03 [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-text/cuneiform Markos Chandras
2013-03-23 19:52 ` James Cloos
2013-03-23 20:06   ` Markos Chandras
2013-03-23 20:13     ` James Cloos
2013-03-23 20:21       ` Markos Chandras
2013-03-23 20:29       ` Rich Freeman
2013-03-23 21:40         ` James Cloos
2013-03-24  9:45           ` Rich Freeman
2013-03-24 13:02           ` Sergei Trofimovich
2013-03-23 21:33       ` Alec Warner
2013-03-24 13:24         ` Peter Stuge
2013-03-24 13:38           ` Rich Freeman
2013-03-24 13:52             ` Peter Stuge
2013-03-24 14:12               ` Rich Freeman
2013-03-24 14:35                 ` Peter Stuge
2013-03-24 14:54               ` Markos Chandras
2013-03-24 15:19                 ` Peter Stuge
2013-03-24 19:24                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-03-24 23:40                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-03-25  7:05                       ` Róbert Čerňanský
2013-03-25  7:46                       ` Alec Warner
2013-03-24  9:15       ` Róbert Čerňanský
2013-03-24 10:43         ` Markos Chandras
2013-03-24 11:22           ` Rich Freeman
2013-03-24 12:11             ` Markos Chandras
2013-03-24 12:18               ` Rich Freeman
2013-03-24 12:31                 ` Markos Chandras
2013-03-24 12:40                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-03-24 14:48                     ` Markos Chandras
2013-03-25 10:22                       ` Ben de Groot
2013-03-24 19:00                     ` Róbert Čerňanský
2013-03-24 13:40               ` Peter Stuge [this message]
2013-03-24 13:48                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-03-24 14:14                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-24 14:51                   ` Peter Stuge
2013-03-25  0:23                 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-03-25  0:26                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-03-25  3:17                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-03-25  7:08                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Róbert Čerňanský
2013-03-25  6:25         ` Sergey Popov

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