[gentoo-dev] About adding "systemd" to profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/use.stable.mask

[gentoo-dev] About adding "systemd" to profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/use.stable.mask

[Pacho Ramos]

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I would like to ask about adding "systemd" USE flag to use.stable.mask
to let us stop needing to revbump packages with optional systemd support
when stabilizing them.

Are you ok with that?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding "systemd" to profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/use.stable.mask

[Rich Freeman]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I would like to ask about adding "systemd" USE flag to use.stable.mask
> to let us stop needing to revbump packages with optional systemd support
> when stabilizing them.
>
> Are you ok with that?

Am I interpreting the impacts of this correctly?  I believe this would
mean that if you ran systemd on an otherwise-stable system (that is,
only systemd and possibly udev are in package.keywords) then you won't
get systemd support in any of your other packages, even if it is
available in a stable version of that package?  My only VM running
systemd just happens to be in that configuration, but I'm willing to
admit that I'm a bit of an edge case.  :)

Why exactly do we need to revbump packages with optional systemd
support when stabilizing them in the first place?  ~arch users would
already have systemd support compiled if they use it, and stable users
would get it when it is stabilized.

I freely admit that there might be some nuance that I'm simply not
getting here...

Rich

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding "systemd" to profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/use.stable.mask

[Pacho Ramos]

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El dom, 24-02-2013 a las 09:35 -0500, Rich Freeman escribió:
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > I would like to ask about adding "systemd" USE flag to use.stable.mask
> > to let us stop needing to revbump packages with optional systemd support
> > when stabilizing them.
> >
> > Are you ok with that?
> 
> Am I interpreting the impacts of this correctly?  I believe this would
> mean that if you ran systemd on an otherwise-stable system (that is,
> only systemd and possibly udev are in package.keywords) then you won't
> get systemd support in any of your other packages, even if it is
> available in a stable version of that package?  My only VM running
> systemd just happens to be in that configuration, but I'm willing to
> admit that I'm a bit of an edge case.  :)
> 
> Why exactly do we need to revbump packages with optional systemd
> support when stabilizing them in the first place?  ~arch users would
> already have systemd support compiled if they use it, and stable users
> would get it when it is stabilized.
> 
> I freely admit that there might be some nuance that I'm simply not
> getting here...
> 
> Rich
> 
> 

We need to revbump it because we cannot mark as stable a package that
would pull a testing package when enabling a USE flag.

Isn't there any way to unmask systemd USE flag on your local setup
(running testing systemd)?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding "systemd" to profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/use.stable.mask

[Michał Górny]

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On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:23:52 +0100
Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:

> I would like to ask about adding "systemd" USE flag to use.stable.mask
> to let us stop needing to revbump packages with optional systemd support
> when stabilizing them.
> 
> Are you ok with that?

Ok, committed that myself ;).

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Best regards,
Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding "systemd" to profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/use.stable.mask

[Michał Górny]

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On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:35:27 -0500
Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > I would like to ask about adding "systemd" USE flag to use.stable.mask
> > to let us stop needing to revbump packages with optional systemd support
> > when stabilizing them.
> >
> > Are you ok with that?
> 
> Am I interpreting the impacts of this correctly?  I believe this would
> mean that if you ran systemd on an otherwise-stable system (that is,
> only systemd and possibly udev are in package.keywords) then you won't
> get systemd support in any of your other packages, even if it is
> available in a stable version of that package?  My only VM running
> systemd just happens to be in that configuration, but I'm willing to
> admit that I'm a bit of an edge case.  :)
> 
> Why exactly do we need to revbump packages with optional systemd
> support when stabilizing them in the first place?  ~arch users would
> already have systemd support compiled if they use it, and stable users
> would get it when it is stabilized.
> 
> I freely admit that there might be some nuance that I'm simply not
> getting here...

You have to stable-unmask it in your /etc/portage/profile:

use.stable.mask:

  -systemd

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Best regards,
Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding "systemd" to profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/use.stable.mask

[Rich Freeman]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> Isn't there any way to unmask systemd USE flag on your local setup
> (running testing systemd)?
>

Wasn't aware that could be done.  That makes sense all-around - it
even allows you to run the stable packages with the unstable flag
(which would be a real pain if we always revbumped them and removed
the flag).

Rich