From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371AA198005 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D580E045E; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7357EE0444 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CC22059D for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:44:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=F2YKDi7C/Ec7qkzVKZgaBVyjQh0=; b=WyuuVjihnpwvxO07mu+OYjeHK2E9 4T/HbjYOK8wyLBdx+sH29YMPLGt5j96sa+54ZAaspNyytXkUEoAQCkmxKSKWszAW +9bR0GakTP7+K3ol66r9f0Ml1moywVRMJDryOrD8TEaIHzrHrVnmhVHHZIDli/FN WsePiqhTOqfPo+s= X-Sasl-enc: RJdJhTY38gk0wp56XiZ1czJK2zbX7eViNbiYxdn5Z+Hs 1361486652 Received: from localhost (unknown [69.38.217.2]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BC5524825E7; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:44:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:44:46 -0800 From: Greg KH To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: linux-firmware Message-ID: <20130221224446.GA10705@kroah.com> References: <5124CCE9.50203@flameeyes.eu> <20130220182232.GA11082@kroah.com> <20130220182514.8755.qmail@stuge.se> <20130220184322.GA12009@kroah.com> <51251B23.7050406@flameeyes.eu> <20130221172652.GA13746@kroah.com> <20774.26764.442528.976419@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20130221195534.GA25951@kroah.com> <20774.34588.927663.247047@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20774.34588.927663.247047@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 413449d8-de16-4716-b069-a2f0867336b0 X-Archives-Hash: 75c00988e8b065ad00dcd4fb195ca83d On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 09:44:12PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Greg KH wrote: > > > Has anyone asked the upstream linux-firmware developers about these > > files? > > I don't know. I haven't, for my part. But maybe we should first try > to produce a more complete list, instead of reporting each file > separately? Given that most of the files are being distributed since > years, another few days cannot matter. Such a list would be wonderful to have. > > thanks for the detailed descriptions, much appreciated. > > > I think this is something that the Board needs to decide, after > > discussing it with our lawyers, it's not something that non-legal > > people (like myself) should be saying is the definitive answer. > > I fully agree. And IANAL, so anything that I say about license issues > should be taken with a grain of salt. I am willing to work with lawyers, who know these type of things quite well, to get upstream straightened out, given that I was the one who originally added firmware files to the kernel, oh so many years ago, causing this problem... This should be a cross-distro issue/solution, so I suggest working with the Linux Foundation on this. Anyone object to me doing that? thanks, greg k-h