From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569AF138ACF for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F59C21C024; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59C72E05F8 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C86B33DC38 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:15:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.218, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63E6WOJSh4Z3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAE8A33DBF8 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U7J4K-0004oW-Ij for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:15:12 +0100 Received: from 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca ([71.17.69.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:15:12 +0100 Received: from dirtyepic by 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:15:12 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Ryan Hill Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs due lack of time Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 23:25:30 -0600 Organization: Gentoo Message-ID: <20130217232530.253f7dfc@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> References: <1361020086.1920.51.camel@belkin4> <511F8D2E.1080006@flameeyes.eu> <511F9A9F.8040206@gentoo.org> <511F9ADE.2050503@flameeyes.eu> <20767.41371.270947.851486@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <5120654B.6050406@gentoo.org> <20130217110551.653158ed@pomiocik.lan> <5120AC52.1060509@gentoo.org> <20130217124211.1b4eca2d@pomiocik.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/g89Jer4C/c0UMtsEqyO_ay1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.15; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Archives-Salt: 4bc9e88a-f080-445f-96d9-dfa433e92bd4 X-Archives-Hash: 93efdd3b1c7095117f36a2c7155e58be --Sig_/g89Jer4C/c0UMtsEqyO_ay1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:42:11 +0100 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > I would justify it through keeping things split and bit-exact clean, > instead of tightly integrated. >=20 > Separate ebuilds mean that: >=20 > - each firmware has proper license, >=20 > - each firmware can be installed separately and it is _clean_ which > firmwares are actually installed (think of binpkgs), >=20 > - each firmware can be upgraded when it needs to be (alternatively: all > firmwares are re-installed over and over again when new firmware is > added). >=20 > And I wouldn't mind having even 200 sys-firmware/ packages. And don't > tell me that firmwares change every month, these are particularly > maintenance-free packages. >=20 > And I don't mind having meta-packages for lazy people. >=20 > Although I believe that having a few 'group' packages for firmwares > will be 'acceptable'. Assuming those firmwares share a common license. I very much agree with all of this. It would be nice if we could keep the individual firmware packages but just have them be a wrapper that depends on linux-firmware and ensures that the required files get installed (maybe by adding them to the savedconfig if it finds they aren't there). Yes, there = are several problems with that idea, I know. --=20 gcc-porting toolchain, wxwidgets learn a language baby, it's that kind of pl= ace @ gentoo.org where low card is hunger and high card is ta= ste --Sig_/g89Jer4C/c0UMtsEqyO_ay1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRIbtLAAoJEO04vUmVeoRjQOwH/0kdeh+i77Ikt551umGLm0vw 3WpkVdugEqMbzsDApWl7jhRpqALQEwd2H3kpuDIi02OpUp7fB/lXdJlaEJ53S3FV 7LZAhCiSYsBF6+oit7oteAlAlS//v2qST1ovlTUkq2+RasaGfBTKZrXTUTEn4blg RzitTKOOvpTBFQuRsaO4GQwHdMj2Va7CXTcdM5WddhBUM7rm6rFogdhazG2Y/t6C mlI9AD99O0XXVXvxTKV8tcldpZH0Ijol/1s+ZnN3cXQsMv8TG7rVhiw9aDxv2peb eT+NzNQLGwFc1NqGX77eYSDhr6Uvdn/WUo9pXvYtGhDdYjyynuJCZZ5P5UtNDRc= =hHsP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/g89Jer4C/c0UMtsEqyO_ay1--