From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C15138AB1 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEF4A21C021; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BD0521C008 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (unknown [213.195.173.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0A9A33DBAC; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:42:11 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: ssuominen@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time Message-ID: <20130217124211.1b4eca2d@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <5120AC52.1060509@gentoo.org> References: <1361020086.1920.51.camel@belkin4> <511F8D2E.1080006@flameeyes.eu> <511F9A9F.8040206@gentoo.org> <511F9ADE.2050503@flameeyes.eu> <20767.41371.270947.851486@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <5120654B.6050406@gentoo.org> <20130217110551.653158ed@pomiocik.lan> <5120AC52.1060509@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.15; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/2KSQZgG7l/0F_W_Ky3n5p6_"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: fc532cc6-93b0-4a0c-854e-0c4bf6f80127 X-Archives-Hash: f9a4222823f9e76b92b2b6d5aa8e9fcb --Sig_/2KSQZgG7l/0F_W_Ky3n5p6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:09:22 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 17/02/13 12:05, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > savedconfig is a cheap hack. It lacks all the features USE flags have. > > Really. We're talking here about replacing well-organized packages with > > one cheap hack for the laziness of a few developers. But that's how > > Gentoo worked for a long time. >=20 > This is how you would justify adding separate ebuild for every firmware=20 > from the linux-firmware bundle? I would justify it through keeping things split and bit-exact clean, instead of tightly integrated. Separate ebuilds mean that: - each firmware has proper license, - each firmware can be installed separately and it is _clean_ which firmwares are actually installed (think of binpkgs), - each firmware can be upgraded when it needs to be (alternatively: all firmwares are re-installed over and over again when new firmware is added). And I wouldn't mind having even 200 sys-firmware/ packages. And don't tell me that firmwares change every month, these are particularly maintenance-free packages. And I don't mind having meta-packages for lazy people. Although I believe that having a few 'group' packages for firmwares will be 'acceptable'. Assuming those firmwares share a common license. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/2KSQZgG7l/0F_W_Ky3n5p6_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAlEgwhQACgkQfXuS5UK5QB3C3AQAgVwmsMAgDCw7j8rupRpUW6Un Ls1OnG3rysOL46I5X5WhlqnTBBrc23p2zkEfyKS5estFoEHJuH3BF3flepr8hCqU nkh80sFJ662qFdYCnno3L3qbhiNdniFJP6ZJAamlrwuw3TGAYTsk+6ZejmdakAos j0D8TIZ0yOTpQFO4qfA= =iRU4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/2KSQZgG7l/0F_W_Ky3n5p6_--