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From: Peter Stuge <peter@stuge.se>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:33:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130211213334.4398.qmail@stuge.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51195CEB.7000505@gentoo.org>

Luca Barbato wrote:
> May I point you that ~10 people were the majority of what was FFmpeg,
> thus 10 people were enough to demote democratically the so called Leader
> and that guy got the name from Fabrice as his personal decision?

There was probably a reason for Fabrice to do that, and majority and
democracy doesn't have much to do with it. It is more likely that 10
people are "right" than that 3 are, but a group of 10 is still quite
small. I wouldn't mind reading about the backstory. Do you know of
some good links beyond the two that were posted already?


> I'm perfectly happy to develop my code as long I'm not dragged in the
> mud with outlandish statement or people annoying the hell of me because
> they want to force me to merge because would be so better.

Users will never be satisfied. But I guess you agree that API
compatibility will certainly avoid extra problems for users.


> Well, you are talking to one of the two guys that spent about 3 months
> behind the scenes trying to compose the situation before it ended with
> the in theory normal demotion of a so-called Leader by democratic means.

I don't think open source neccessarily is democracy, and of course a
disagreement about something fairly fundamental such as that can
be more than enough to cause a fork.


> Sadly or luckily the whole thing ended with us (the majority)
> having to give up the name and picking a different one.

I think the name itself doesn't matter much (FWIW I think libav is a
much better name) but API compatibility is a big deal, and all
branches should really make an effort to stay compatible.


//Peter


  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-11 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20130116124002.B9FA22171D@flycatcher.gentoo.org>
2013-01-16 20:09 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild Alexis Ballier
2013-01-16 20:39   ` Luca Barbato
2013-01-16 21:31     ` Alexis Ballier
2013-01-16 21:52       ` Luca Barbato
2013-01-16 22:37         ` Alexis Ballier
2013-01-16 20:55   ` Tomáš Chvátal
2013-02-07  5:52     ` Peter Stuge
2013-02-08 21:41       ` Maciej Mrozowski
2013-02-08 21:46         ` Alexis Ballier
2013-02-09 14:12           ` Luca Barbato
2013-02-09 14:48             ` Rich Freeman
2013-02-11  2:01             ` Alexis Ballier
2013-02-11 11:25               ` Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild) Luca Barbato
2013-02-11 13:49                 ` Alexis Ballier
2013-02-11 16:22                   ` Peter Stuge
2013-02-11 18:39                     ` Alexis Ballier
2013-02-11 20:41                       ` Peter Stuge
2013-02-11 21:04                   ` Luca Barbato
2013-02-11 21:33                     ` Peter Stuge [this message]
2013-02-11 23:19                       ` Luca Barbato
2013-02-11 23:34                         ` Peter Stuge
2013-02-12  7:21                           ` Ian Whyman
2013-02-12 11:16                             ` Luca Barbato
2013-02-12 14:19                               ` Alexis Ballier
2013-02-12 11:59                             ` Rich Freeman
2013-02-11 21:39                     ` Alexis Ballier
2013-01-17  5:31   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild Samuli Suominen
2013-01-17 12:22     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-01-17 13:19       ` Alexis Ballier
2013-01-17 13:26         ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-01-17 14:00           ` Alexis Ballier
2013-01-17 14:10             ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-01-17 14:41               ` Alexis Ballier
2013-01-18  0:32               ` Duncan
2013-01-18  1:04                 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-01-18  6:12                   ` Duncan
2013-01-18 12:09                     ` [gentoo-dev] On tinderboxing Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-01-17 14:21     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild Peter Stuge
2013-01-17  9:19   ` Markos Chandras
2013-01-17  9:41     ` Tomáš Chvátal
2013-01-17 10:45       ` Markos Chandras
2013-01-17 11:02         ` Ben de Groot
2013-01-17 11:23           ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-01-17 11:32           ` Tomáš Chvátal
2013-01-17 13:05       ` Alexis Ballier
2013-01-17 14:07       ` Alexis Ballier
2013-01-17 14:39         ` Luca Barbato

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