From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2FC1389AC for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1D1BE05E4; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4314E05CB for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pc-103-46-101-190.cm.vtr.net [190.101.46.103]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: aballier) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5BD4333E630 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:39:22 -0300 From: Alexis Ballier To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild) Message-ID: <20130211183922.79f59580@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <51195CEB.7000505@gentoo.org> References: <20130116124002.B9FA22171D@flycatcher.gentoo.org> <4176032.KcqBdYLtS8@arcarius> <20130207055244.9167.qmail@stuge.se> <1843047.zKdLAzEhcU@lebrodyl> <20130208184652.5fd15c00@gentoo.org> <5116593F.5000209@gentoo.org> <20130210230114.07ab4467@gentoo.org> <5118D530.10201@gentoo.org> <20130211104945.62f8d487@gentoo.org> <51195CEB.7000505@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.15; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6afb718d-c6d9-4ee9-8283-9a77055cdc4f X-Archives-Hash: be9d37bf839a4da6691c1485c24a3486 On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:04:43 +0100 Luca Barbato wrote: > Your whole email is derailing a bit from discussing the code at hand > and it is going deep down on the people, I'd rather not get there > since it gets totally unrelated the question at hand. I'm not sure if you read my reply, but it was not meant at all as going down on the people. I realized it was understood as such and apologized, and apologize again here. > On 11/02/13 14:49, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > All of this because ~10 people cannot work together, well, really, > > thank you :) > > May I point you that ~10 people were the majority of what was FFmpeg, > thus 10 people were enough to demote democratically the so called > Leader and that guy got the name from Fabrice as his personal > decision? > > I'm perfectly happy to develop my code as long I'm not dragged in the > mud with outlandish statement or people annoying the hell of me > because they want to force me to merge because would be so better. It would be better. Nobody wants to force you to do anything though. I guess that answers my question on a possible reopening of the discussions. > Well, you are talking to one of the two guys that spent about 3 months > behind the scenes trying to compose the situation before it ended with > the in theory normal demotion of a so-called Leader by democratic > means. To be honest, I never understood why this had to be done by a takeover with such a majority of people, and always wondered why what seen publicly was only a poor leader asking for democracy but demoted by force (exagerating a bit). This surely encouraged people to support him. I guess I should ask you for more details in private. Alexis.