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From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:06:05 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121218190605.GB8546@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50D0BB2F.7030606@gentoo.org>

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On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 01:51:27PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 12/18/2012 01:45 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote:
> >>
> >>> This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it was
> >>> pushed through that separate /usr without an initramfs is a
> >>> supported configuration, so yes, the previous council started this
> >>> issue.
> >>
> >> Sorry, but that's not an accurate account of what the council has
> >> decided on. What we voted on in the April 2012 meeting was this:
> >>
> >>    <ulm> The question is: "Decide on whether a separate /usr is still
> >>          a supported configuration."
> >  
> > Ulrich,
> > 
> >  I have read the log, and that is where the confusion is.
> > 
> >  If that is true, and I think folks would beg to differ, we can say that
> >  the way separate /usr is supported is via requiring an initramfs and
> >  move forward from there because that would still be within the
> >  council's requirement since there is now documentation on how to build
> >  an initramfs.
> > 
> > I know at least one council member who was at that meeting who would
> > strongly disagree and say that what you voted for was that separate
> > /usr, without an initramfs, is a supported configuration.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > William
> > 
> 
> Our official documentation for LVM2 explicitly advised users to use such
> configurations. Dropping support now will break existing systems
> unnecessarily.
> 
> Before anyone says to use a news item, let me say that publishing a news
> item to inform users that we decided to break their systems will not
> make it better.

I don't follow. The initramfs document [1] clearly points out that if
you have lvm you have to include it when you run genkernel, and we can't
move forward until a proper version of genkernel is stable.

William

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/initramfs-guide.xml

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-18 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-15  3:52 [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement Richard Yao
2012-12-15  3:57 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15  4:16 ` Peter Stuge
2012-12-15  5:28   ` [gentoo-dev] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-15 12:40     ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-15  6:33   ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2012-12-15  7:21     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-12-15 17:53       ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-15 18:07         ` Michał Górny
2012-12-15 18:58           ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-15 19:33             ` Michał Górny
2012-12-15 20:17               ` Richard Yao
2012-12-17 10:40                 ` Olav Vitters
2012-12-17 11:09                   ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-17 13:25                     ` Olav Vitters
2012-12-17 14:29                       ` Richard Yao
2012-12-17 19:48                         ` Olav Vitters
2012-12-17 20:03                           ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-17 21:31                             ` Greg KH
2012-12-17 23:23                               ` William Hubbs
2012-12-18  6:50                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-12-18 18:45                                   ` William Hubbs
2012-12-18 18:51                                     ` Richard Yao
2012-12-18 19:06                                       ` William Hubbs [this message]
2012-12-18 19:20                                     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-18 19:28                                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-18  9:01                                 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-18 18:07                                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-18  7:21                               ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-19 17:13                                 ` Greg KH
2012-12-19 17:41                                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-19 23:27                                   ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-20  8:31                                     ` Michał Górny
2012-12-20 11:21                                       ` Richard Yao
2012-12-20 12:02                                         ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-20 12:18                                           ` Richard Yao
2012-12-20 20:55                                           ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21  8:23                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21  8:10                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21  8:57                                         ` Michał Górny
2012-12-21 10:24                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 11:02                                             ` Michał Górny
2012-12-21 11:31                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 11:42                                                 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-21 11:48                                                   ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 16:12                                                     ` Stelian Ionescu
2012-12-21 16:14                                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 13:51                                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-21 14:37                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 14:52                                             ` Dale
2012-12-21 14:54                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 15:06                                                 ` Dale
2012-12-21 14:38                                           ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-21 15:04                                             ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 16:21                                               ` William Hubbs
2012-12-21 17:36                                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 17:52                                                   ` Dale
2012-12-21 18:05                                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 18:15                                                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-21 18:20                                                   ` William Hubbs
2012-12-21 18:52                                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-18  8:51                               ` Richard Yao
2012-12-18  5:12                       ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-17 12:47                   ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15 23:32         ` Duncan
2012-12-15 14:19     ` [gentoo-dev] " Anthony G. Basile
2012-12-15 21:08   ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15 21:20     ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2012-12-15 21:22       ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15 12:07 ` Roy Bamford
2012-12-15 12:47   ` Dale
2012-12-15 12:48 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] " Rich Freeman
2012-12-15 13:52   ` Duncan
2012-12-15 15:43   ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-15 16:20     ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-15 20:29       ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-15 21:16       ` Richard Yao

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