From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCC01381F3 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAC4C21C115; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fep12.mx.upcmail.net (fep12.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.32]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29CA21C117 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viefep12-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.05 201-2260-151-110-20120111) with ESMTP id <20121217104025.DRQ2716.viefep12-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:40:25 +0100 Received: from bkor.dhs.org ([62.195.84.29]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id cagN1k0380dyCrA03agNjK; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:40:25 +0100 X-SourceIP: 62.195.84.29 Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 27D8D500398; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:40:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:40:22 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement Message-ID: <20121217104022.GA27716@bkor.dhs.org> References: <50CBF400.2060104@gentoo.org> <20121215041648.17673.qmail@stuge.se> <20121215063304.GA6552@waltdnes.org> <20121215175340.GA7945@waltdnes.org> <20121215190709.19ece7f6@pomiocik.lan> <20121215185843.GA8156@waltdnes.org> <20121215203359.4552d807@pomiocik.lan> <50CCDAC1.2080405@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <50CCDAC1.2080405@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: cdbda21b-d5c7-43f4-91ab-9257278f92ba X-Archives-Hash: ccc1ed18616b81acdff61a2276b5dbf1 On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 03:17:05PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: > On 12/15/2012 02:33 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:58:43 -0500 > > "Walter Dnes" wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:07:09PM +0100, Micha?? G??rny wrote > >>> Waaait, what? Did something change lately or are you just repeating > >>> the same bullshit for months? > >> > >> Older systemd boots OK with a separate /usr and eudev. But somehow, > >> somewhere along the line, as part of the merge, the udev portion of the > >> systemd tarball requires initramfs. See news item... > >> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=36326;list=gentoo > >> It was actually finally released 2012-03-16. If you disagree with that > >> news item, complain directly to its author. If you can boot a udev-181 > >> or higher system with a separate /usr, and no intrd/initramfs, I'm sure > >> a lot of people would be very interested in knowing how. > > > > This was a Gentoo decision, not an upstream one. > > If I recall, WilliamH stated at the time that he believed that upstream > would make avoiding it increasingly difficult. My impression was that he > felt coerced into making that change. So systemd still works with a separate /usr and you're continuing to spread misinformation. Demonstrating such behaviour while complaining about the behaviour of upstream is IMO very ironic. -- Regards, Olav