From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4E51381F3 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88D7221C09E; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B28E21C071 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (159-205-67-229.adsl.inetia.pl [159.205.67.229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9DDEF33DC9D; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:07:09 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: waltdnes@waltdnes.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement Message-ID: <20121215190709.19ece7f6@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <20121215175340.GA7945@waltdnes.org> References: <50CBF400.2060104@gentoo.org> <20121215041648.17673.qmail@stuge.se> <20121215063304.GA6552@waltdnes.org> <20121215175340.GA7945@waltdnes.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.14; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/2oPG7tit2p5i8AD3af4yzzp"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: a8ac2a15-b3c3-4fbf-8516-ff56a526d4f0 X-Archives-Hash: 837cb45312081eb31a06805f566fa2dc --Sig_/2oPG7tit2p5i8AD3af4yzzp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:53:41 -0500 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:21:21AM +0000, Duncan wrote > > Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:33:04 -0500 as excerpted: > >=20 > > > [Udev-systemd has] essentially announced ahead of time that most bugs > > > from non-systemd users would be closed with WONTFIX. > >=20 > > Agreed, to this point. > >=20 > > > Actually, for political reasons, I hope that eudev does submit a bunch > > > bugs+patches, and gets them rejected. Then whenever anyone complains > > > about not sharing code, show them a bunch of WONTFIX emails from > > > systemd/udev maintainers. > >=20 > > This attitude is and the described events would be... unfortunate. > >=20 > > For the reasons you list, I don't believe people should be /surprised/ = if=20 > > many such bugs+patches are rejected after submission, but that wouldn't= =20 > > make it any less unfortunate, and IMO, hoping they DO get rejected is t= he=20 > > wrong attitude to have. >=20 > I should've been clearer in my email, rather than a train-of-thought > approach... >=20 > 1) For appearance's sake and to make our position better in outsiders' > view, I *HOPE* that eudev developers are co-operative in regards to > sharing patches with systemd/udev. >=20 > 2) Given past history, I *EXPECT* at least some bugs to be "resolved" > by the systemd/udev developers as WONTFIX. It was their attitude that > led to eudev in the first place. >=20 > Here's a brief overview of why I think that eudev (or equivalant) is > necessary... >=20 > * Lennart Poettering wrote systemd >=20 > * systemd will not run on machines with a separate /usr, and no > initramfs. Waaait, what? Did something change lately or are you just repeating the same bullshit for months? --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/2oPG7tit2p5i8AD3af4yzzp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAlDMvFEACgkQfXuS5UK5QB1inAQAhgjw+Qq+ikLOpVDaOlkJCKhO evpPiCKL2LuAgTmlJQxlIQ9l2fcPxOMQkcWxMrrKBDHw7F6UBPb+CX/ApS3ZBU60 5OF1RmqaSqE1VyNwI4XwhY5F38Ayo37QXFh4QgCIG+CrLkwA/xPdre7ZbhpZwps6 39MyfJpUfF0SIJxMxpU= =QmxW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/2oPG7tit2p5i8AD3af4yzzp--