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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: waltdnes@waltdnes.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:07:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121215190709.19ece7f6@pomiocik.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121215175340.GA7945@waltdnes.org>

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:53:41 -0500
"Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:21:21AM +0000, Duncan wrote
> > Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:33:04 -0500 as excerpted:
> > 
> > > [Udev-systemd has] essentially announced ahead of time that most bugs
> > > from non-systemd users would be closed with WONTFIX.
> > 
> > Agreed, to this point.
> > 
> > > Actually, for political reasons, I hope that eudev does submit a bunch
> > > bugs+patches, and gets them rejected.  Then whenever anyone complains
> > > about not sharing code, show them a bunch of WONTFIX emails from
> > > systemd/udev maintainers.
> > 
> > This attitude is and the described events would be... unfortunate.
> > 
> > For the reasons you list, I don't believe people should be /surprised/ if 
> > many such bugs+patches are rejected after submission, but that wouldn't 
> > make it any less unfortunate, and IMO, hoping they DO get rejected is the 
> > wrong attitude to have.
> 
>   I should've been clearer in my email, rather than a train-of-thought
> approach...
> 
>   1) For appearance's sake and to make our position better in outsiders'
> view, I *HOPE* that eudev developers are co-operative in regards to
> sharing patches with systemd/udev.
> 
>   2) Given past history, I *EXPECT* at least some bugs to be "resolved"
> by the systemd/udev developers as WONTFIX.  It was their attitude that
> led to eudev in the first place.
> 
>   Here's a brief overview of why I think that eudev (or equivalant) is
> necessary...
> 
>   * Lennart Poettering wrote systemd
> 
>   * systemd will not run on machines with a separate /usr, and no
>     initramfs.

Waaait, what? Did something change lately or are you just repeating
the same bullshit for months?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-15 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-15  3:52 [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement Richard Yao
2012-12-15  3:57 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15  4:16 ` Peter Stuge
2012-12-15  5:28   ` [gentoo-dev] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-15 12:40     ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-15  6:33   ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2012-12-15  7:21     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-12-15 17:53       ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-15 18:07         ` Michał Górny [this message]
2012-12-15 18:58           ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-15 19:33             ` Michał Górny
2012-12-15 20:17               ` Richard Yao
2012-12-17 10:40                 ` Olav Vitters
2012-12-17 11:09                   ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-17 13:25                     ` Olav Vitters
2012-12-17 14:29                       ` Richard Yao
2012-12-17 19:48                         ` Olav Vitters
2012-12-17 20:03                           ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-17 21:31                             ` Greg KH
2012-12-17 23:23                               ` William Hubbs
2012-12-18  6:50                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-12-18 18:45                                   ` William Hubbs
2012-12-18 18:51                                     ` Richard Yao
2012-12-18 19:06                                       ` William Hubbs
2012-12-18 19:20                                     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-18 19:28                                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-18  9:01                                 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-18 18:07                                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-18  7:21                               ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-19 17:13                                 ` Greg KH
2012-12-19 17:41                                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-19 23:27                                   ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-20  8:31                                     ` Michał Górny
2012-12-20 11:21                                       ` Richard Yao
2012-12-20 12:02                                         ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-20 12:18                                           ` Richard Yao
2012-12-20 20:55                                           ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21  8:23                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21  8:10                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21  8:57                                         ` Michał Górny
2012-12-21 10:24                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 11:02                                             ` Michał Górny
2012-12-21 11:31                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 11:42                                                 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-21 11:48                                                   ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 16:12                                                     ` Stelian Ionescu
2012-12-21 16:14                                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 13:51                                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-21 14:37                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 14:52                                             ` Dale
2012-12-21 14:54                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 15:06                                                 ` Dale
2012-12-21 14:38                                           ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-21 15:04                                             ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 16:21                                               ` William Hubbs
2012-12-21 17:36                                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 17:52                                                   ` Dale
2012-12-21 18:05                                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 18:15                                                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-21 18:20                                                   ` William Hubbs
2012-12-21 18:52                                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-18  8:51                               ` Richard Yao
2012-12-18  5:12                       ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-17 12:47                   ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15 23:32         ` Duncan
2012-12-15 14:19     ` [gentoo-dev] " Anthony G. Basile
2012-12-15 21:08   ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15 21:20     ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2012-12-15 21:22       ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15 12:07 ` Roy Bamford
2012-12-15 12:47   ` Dale
2012-12-15 12:48 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] " Rich Freeman
2012-12-15 13:52   ` Duncan
2012-12-15 15:43   ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-15 16:20     ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-15 20:29       ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-15 21:16       ` Richard Yao

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