From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: waltdnes@waltdnes.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:07:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121215190709.19ece7f6@pomiocik.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121215175340.GA7945@waltdnes.org>
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:53:41 -0500
"Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:21:21AM +0000, Duncan wrote
> > Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:33:04 -0500 as excerpted:
> >
> > > [Udev-systemd has] essentially announced ahead of time that most bugs
> > > from non-systemd users would be closed with WONTFIX.
> >
> > Agreed, to this point.
> >
> > > Actually, for political reasons, I hope that eudev does submit a bunch
> > > bugs+patches, and gets them rejected. Then whenever anyone complains
> > > about not sharing code, show them a bunch of WONTFIX emails from
> > > systemd/udev maintainers.
> >
> > This attitude is and the described events would be... unfortunate.
> >
> > For the reasons you list, I don't believe people should be /surprised/ if
> > many such bugs+patches are rejected after submission, but that wouldn't
> > make it any less unfortunate, and IMO, hoping they DO get rejected is the
> > wrong attitude to have.
>
> I should've been clearer in my email, rather than a train-of-thought
> approach...
>
> 1) For appearance's sake and to make our position better in outsiders'
> view, I *HOPE* that eudev developers are co-operative in regards to
> sharing patches with systemd/udev.
>
> 2) Given past history, I *EXPECT* at least some bugs to be "resolved"
> by the systemd/udev developers as WONTFIX. It was their attitude that
> led to eudev in the first place.
>
> Here's a brief overview of why I think that eudev (or equivalant) is
> necessary...
>
> * Lennart Poettering wrote systemd
>
> * systemd will not run on machines with a separate /usr, and no
> initramfs.
Waaait, what? Did something change lately or are you just repeating
the same bullshit for months?
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Best regards,
Michał Górny
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-15 3:52 [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement Richard Yao
2012-12-15 3:57 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15 4:16 ` Peter Stuge
2012-12-15 5:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-15 12:40 ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-15 6:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2012-12-15 7:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-12-15 17:53 ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-15 18:07 ` Michał Górny [this message]
2012-12-15 18:58 ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-15 19:33 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-15 20:17 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-17 10:40 ` Olav Vitters
2012-12-17 11:09 ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-17 13:25 ` Olav Vitters
2012-12-17 14:29 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-17 19:48 ` Olav Vitters
2012-12-17 20:03 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-17 21:31 ` Greg KH
2012-12-17 23:23 ` William Hubbs
2012-12-18 6:50 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-12-18 18:45 ` William Hubbs
2012-12-18 18:51 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-18 19:06 ` William Hubbs
2012-12-18 19:20 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-18 19:28 ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-18 9:01 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-18 18:07 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-18 7:21 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-19 17:13 ` Greg KH
2012-12-19 17:41 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-19 23:27 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-20 8:31 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-20 11:21 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-20 12:02 ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-20 12:18 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-20 20:55 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21 8:23 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 8:10 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 8:57 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-21 10:24 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 11:02 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-21 11:31 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 11:42 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-21 11:48 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 16:12 ` Stelian Ionescu
2012-12-21 16:14 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 13:51 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-21 14:37 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 14:52 ` Dale
2012-12-21 14:54 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 15:06 ` Dale
2012-12-21 14:38 ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-21 15:04 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 16:21 ` William Hubbs
2012-12-21 17:36 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 17:52 ` Dale
2012-12-21 18:05 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-21 18:15 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-21 18:20 ` William Hubbs
2012-12-21 18:52 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-12-18 8:51 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-18 5:12 ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-17 12:47 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15 23:32 ` Duncan
2012-12-15 14:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Anthony G. Basile
2012-12-15 21:08 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15 21:20 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2012-12-15 21:22 ` Richard Yao
2012-12-15 12:07 ` Roy Bamford
2012-12-15 12:47 ` Dale
2012-12-15 12:48 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] " Rich Freeman
2012-12-15 13:52 ` Duncan
2012-12-15 15:43 ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-15 16:20 ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-15 20:29 ` Luca Barbato
2012-12-15 21:16 ` Richard Yao
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