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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: hwoarang@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:29:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121214152957.24e41549@pomiocik.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG2jQ8j87gXDeH8AaZC+=3qaW6rZzN5zn__civtDQHVyuUfj-w@mail.gmail.com>

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:38:24 +0000
Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 13 December 2012 21:46, Zac Medico <zmedico@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> >> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100
> >> "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico:
> >>>>> Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just
> >>>>> the same. Except for the fact that it will be a bit cleaner, not require
> >>>>> EAPI=5 at all and probably make arch testing a bit easier for a few
> >>>>> people.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sounds good to me.
> >>>
> >>> Except that it completely breaks stabilization procedures, since packages are
> >>> then not only tested with a larger range of useflags, but with an entirely
> >>> different profile. Not such a great idea.
> >>>
> >>> The whole point of the stable masking was to keep the changes minimal when
> >>> going from a "testing" to a "stable" state - by only restricting the use flag
> >>> choices, and nothing else. This means most of the testing done with ~arch
> >>> packages is still valid and provides meaningful feedback to maintainers and
> >>> arch teams for stabilization.
> >>
> >> Well, it's all a question of decisions, I believe. If we make sure that
> >> the new 'unstable' profiles differ from the 'stable' ones only by
> >> additional masked/unmasked USE flags, I don't think it'd be an issue.
> >
> > Yeah, should be fine.
> 
> How are you engoing to ensure that? And how are you going to monitor
> them so they will not get out-of-sync in future? We have plenty of
> examples of stale profile entries
> all over the profiles/arch directory so I think that the stable
> *use.stable.mask will also end up
> unmaintained in the near future.

What is your solution then? Keeping two revisions of most ebuilds so
that one could be stabilized? I don't see how that is more
maintainable, except for a few days who will easily stay out of it
and pretend that the issue doesn't exist.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-14 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-10 21:27 [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86? Michał Górny
2012-12-11  2:01 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-11  6:32   ` Michał Górny
2012-12-11  6:35 ` Zac Medico
2012-12-11 21:45   ` Michał Górny
2012-12-12  0:44     ` Zac Medico
2012-12-12  9:32       ` Michał Górny
2012-12-12 10:30         ` Zac Medico
2012-12-13 20:33           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-12-13 20:43             ` Michał Górny
2012-12-13 21:46               ` Zac Medico
2012-12-14 12:38                 ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-14 14:29                   ` Michał Górny [this message]
2012-12-14 14:36                     ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-14 14:39                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-14 15:00                         ` Michał Górny
2012-12-14 14:59                       ` Michał Górny
2012-12-14 15:08                         ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-14 15:15                           ` Michał Górny
2012-12-14 20:50                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan

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