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From: "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 22:21:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121209032125.GA22913@waltdnes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50C2C828.5010402@gentoo.org>

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 08:55:04PM -0800, "Pawe?? Hajdan, Jr." wrote

> The serious problem here is that we need *new* users. A non-working
> install CD is a really bad thing here, don't you think? ;-)

  While we're at it, can we please also make a USB-key "install ISO"?
I'm not asking merely because "other distros do it".  I'm asking because
the situation has changed in the past half-dozen years.  Back in 2005 or
2006, almost all machines had a CD and/or DVD, and many older PC BIOSes
did not allow for booting from a USB key.  Fast-forward to 2012 (and
soon 2013) and...
* just about every PC is capable of booting from USB
* quite a few netbooks/notebooks do not have a CD or DVD drive.  E.g. I
  had to boot from a Knoppix USB key as my working environment to do the
  initial portion of the Gentoo install on my netbook.

  Yes, I'm aware of http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml, but even I
have occasionally fouled up those intructions.  It doesn't exactly
encourage new Gentoo users to have to go through that tap-dance.  Arch
linux https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Installation_Media
manages to have a dual-bootable (CD / USB-key) image as a standard
feature.  In addition to installation, it would make the base of a good
system rescue utility.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-09  3:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-08  4:55 [gentoo-dev] borked release media "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2012-12-08  5:25 ` Matt Turner
2012-12-08 11:50   ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-08 16:31     ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2012-12-08 16:47   ` Peter Stuge
2012-12-09  3:21 ` Walter Dnes [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-12-09  4:57 Fernando Reyes
2012-12-09  5:04 ` Peter Stuge
2012-12-09  9:18   ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-09  9:40     ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-12-09 14:42   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-12-10  1:07     ` Peter Stuge
2012-12-10 15:22 ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-09  5:29 Fernando Reyes
2012-12-09 14:50 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-12-09 17:23 Fernando Reyes
2012-12-09 17:45 ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-09 18:46 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-12-09 18:57   ` Greg KH
2012-12-09 23:21     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-12-10  2:38       ` Greg KH
2012-12-10 12:53         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-12-09 20:26   ` likewhoa
2012-12-09 23:21     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-12-09 18:07 Fernando Reyes
2012-12-09 18:13 ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-09 18:24   ` Greg KH
2012-12-09 18:35     ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-09 18:59       ` Greg KH
2012-12-10  0:24         ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-12-10  0:52           ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-10  0:57             ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-12-10  1:08               ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-10  2:37                 ` Greg KH
2012-12-10 15:31                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-10 18:36                     ` Greg KH
2012-12-10 20:25                       ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-12-10  2:35             ` Greg KH
2012-12-10 12:55             ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-12-10  2:34           ` Greg KH
2012-12-09 18:42 Fernando Reyes

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