Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

["Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>]

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 01:51:14AM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote
> 
> "... systemd is a cross-distro project: every major and many, many
> minor distros have had people contributing to systemd. last i heard
> even two debian devs have commit access to the repo, among many
> others. systemd upstream is very accommodating of different needs and
> different use-cases (as long as they are presented on technical
> grounds) and have been a pleasure to work with so far. We are getting
> the joint experience of a lot of people/projects who have worked on
> different init systems for a long time, I think this is one of the
> most important "features" one could have."
> 
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1149530#p1149530

  You're missing the point entirely.  Yes, the systemd people are
working for the good of systemd.  Nobody denies that.  Your post does
not address the fact that Kay and Lennart hold standalone udev in
contempt, and treat it as a 2nd-class citizen.  Note that Richard Yao is
*NOT* forking systemd.  He is forking udev, which addresses the issue of
Kay's+Lennart's hostility to standalone udev on non-systemd setups.  I,
and a lot of other people, would like to use a sane standalone udev
(from the Greg KH days) without systemd's dependancies/restrictions.
That is the "target market" for a udev fork.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
We are apparently better off trying to avoid udev like the plague.
Linus Torvalds; 2012/10/03 https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/349