From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5142B1381F3 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DDD321C079; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.19.201]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACEA21C06C for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.kernel.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0733F2018E; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (c-67-168-183-230.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.168.183.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33F102018A; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:08:45 -0800 From: Greg KH To: Richard Yao Cc: "gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org" Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] Message-ID: <20121118080845.GA8628@kroah.com> References: <20120423012540.GA2130@waltdnes.org> <20120505010529.GD22763@kroah.com> <20120509183203.GA27545@kroah.com> <4bdd949a377d40eb85590870be440551@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu> <50A8943E.7070607@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50A8943E.7070607@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.kernel.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Archives-Salt: 6e853e0e-5c93-4f50-8a4b-400e20673154 X-Archives-Hash: a6d083ec808b82544f405df69d6a63b1 On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 02:54:38AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: > On 05/09/2012 06:36 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:51:37PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > >> I foresee a new udev fork then. > > > > Please feel free to do so, the code has been open since the first day I > > created it. > > > > Remember, forks are good, there's nothing wrong with them, I strongly > > encourage people to do them if they wish to, it benefits everyone > > involved. > > > >> If udev is going to end up like avahi is, this is *highly* probable. > > > > That's an odd transition... > > > >> With "avahi is ..." I actually mean, one single tarball blob depending > >> on the whole world and its solar system and galaxy. > > > > Hyperbole, how nice :( > > > >> Please stop throwing lennartware at people. FailAudio has been enough, thanks. > > > > The use of these terms is both rude and totally uncalled for. You > > should be ashamed of yourself. > > > > Seriously, that's unacceptable behavior from anyone. > > > > No one forces you to use any of this software if you do not want to. > > There are lots of other operating systems out there, feel free to switch > > to them if you do not like the way this one is working out, no one is > > stopping you. But for you to disparage someone who has given immense > > bodies of work to the community, and you, for free, is horrible behavior > > and needs to stop right now. > > > > greg k-h > > > > Greg, would you clarify what you meant by this? Meant by what part of the above response? Written 6 months ago? > Your recent comments suggest to me that you did not mean what I thought > you meant. What did you think I meant about what? Again, I have no objection to people forking projects, it's great, and fun to watch happen. Fork away on your own site, with whom ever you want to. But if this fork is now the "official Gentoo fork", owned by the Gentoo Foundation, and it's the way forward that Gentoo the distro is going to take with regards to how the boot process works on the system, then I have something to say about it, as it affects me, a Gentoo developer. And that is how this thread started, I wanted to know what was the resolution of the council meeting with the very unclear and vague meeting minutes. I have yet to get that answer, which is troubling. thanks, greg k-h