From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5708138010 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FE5421C011; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF8BE0158 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id u54so2713403wey.40 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:41:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=ivLvbiUkEcQ3prCVFQBqkrGACEdugg0j4vMUc5DVlO0=; b=N2BWAQ8EtwSpeZqb9UfGfG3rx8sXKYZZgm/KSFC3d4HtqD44fS2Ep1sPaDMlVQ65Fy kV8AhN6AXOdMh1nF4z1kXt8y7oNzu/KVmBAJeg5NkA9EW1SsdMfmXGXjOxEsImbkNNt9 jSZdslvhZ1eCQuhRxqsafaaPjlSsh1K0MpbSN5n+fhzduE65tAHxRdNg2BZftWMqQVvG Zf9NUXZLeefkU23vlT7JouDw+g7f2tzErgZrl8rXckQ9gNHAt0U3FPbgPN0d+zI97V7i +5JgF8bO+Khgl5CA+G/oN9u8u4MaKMV2S6BzWK5eAaxwtddhujrSQ6ho9uoI8iFTPPZW Nv6g== Received: by 10.180.102.131 with SMTP id fo3mr18202359wib.1.1350232868729; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc13-broo7-2-0-cust130.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [82.9.16.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gm7sm10725165wib.10.2012.10.14.09.41.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:38:06 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-pms] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal Message-ID: <20121014173806.6b4b4263@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20121014164513.GA2873@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> References: <20120916160528.GD23030@localhost> <20120916175921.4f01661a@googlemail.com> <20120925224614.GF26094@localhost> <20120929170509.63efef70@googlemail.com> <20120930201453.GC2180@localhost> <20120930213018.22fe16f3@googlemail.com> <20120930214214.GE2180@localhost> <20120930225340.126b1027@googlemail.com> <506B2985.2040108@gentoo.org> <20121002185614.63783db0@googlemail.com> <20121014164513.GA2873@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/3HVA6JtI7jf+nrtjxBS8TWj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 82a81d14-5f68-4773-bfbb-7e3b0426e445 X-Archives-Hash: cdf3d1aeedefef9d98ecc71e130bc0ba --Sig_/3HVA6JtI7jf+nrtjxBS8TWj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:45:13 +0100 "Steven J. Long" wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 06:56:14PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > A :=3D only makes sense for a dependency that is present both at build > > time and at runtime. Currently, the only place you should be seeing > > a :=3D is on a spec that is listed in both DEPEND and RDEPEND. > >=20 > > Conceptually, the :=3D applies to "the spec that is in both DEPEND and > > RDEPEND". But with the current syntax, there's no such thing as "the > > spec that is in both". There are two specs, which happen to be > > identical as strings, one in DEPEND and one in RDEPEND, and there's > > no way for the two to be associated. > >=20 > Now that *is* dishonestly ignorant: you know full well that LDEPEND > [1] covers exactly that case. Everyone else knows full well that LDEPEND is such a badly broken idea that it's not worth discussing... --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/3HVA6JtI7jf+nrtjxBS8TWj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlB66nMACgkQ96zL6DUtXhEYNgCgzhKxZeFomnIoYwxIM2x8beip RM4AoN6qD24qqY4rG6gxwYvYhoF1qT6D =reUG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/3HVA6JtI7jf+nrtjxBS8TWj--