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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
To: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
Cc: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-pms] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 02:01:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121001090132.GB14301@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121001081349.59ba2745@googlemail.com>

On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 08:13:49AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> x? ( build: a run: b ) *is* nested "conflicting".
> 
> You're still failing to understand the point of labels parsing rules,
> though: the point is to make uses like the above well defined and
> consistent.

I understand them just fine; you're just either very fucking daft, 
which I have a hard time believing, or lieing through your teeth 
(which fits a decade of behaviour including multiple suspensions for 
exactly that behaviour).

Implicit labels context is build+run.  Meaning the following
> x? ( build: a run: b ) *is* nested "conflicting".

is actually

build+run x? ( build: a run: b )

Which isn't a nested conflict- subset, not conflict.

You argue labels are required so people can do nested conflicts; 
meaning the following extreme example:

run x? ( build: a test: b )

And as I nicely pointed out, /not a single fucking exheres/ does that.  
you've yet to pull out an example contradicting that analysis in 
addition.


So... with that in mind- I'm doing two things; 1) can't force you 
back under a bridge, instead I'll do the killfile equivalent for a few 
weeks, 2) my original proposal if you kept being a tool seems 
appropriate:

"""
As said, you come up w/ real world examples, I'll include them; else
persist and I'll just fold the academic wankery description of labels
into the glep if you'd truly like me to (or you piss me off enough I
do so to be a dick).
"""

What I truly love about that solution there is that it's both 
accurate, and if I play my cards right, I may be able to get a glep 
passed calling your proposal academic wankery; minimally, it'll be fun 
from my standpoint to try, so at least something came out of the last 
few emails from you.

hugs and kisses-
~harring


  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-01  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-16 13:52 [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal Brian Harring
2012-09-16 14:39 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-pms] " Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-16 16:05   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-16 16:59     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-25 22:46       ` Brian Harring
2012-09-29 16:05         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-30 20:14           ` Brian Harring
2012-09-30 20:30             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-30 21:42               ` Brian Harring
2012-09-30 21:53                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-30 23:56                   ` Brian Harring
2012-10-01  7:13                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-01  9:01                       ` Brian Harring [this message]
2012-10-01  9:15                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-17 15:03                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2012-10-02 17:51                   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-pms] " Ian Stakenvicius
2012-10-02 17:56                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-02 18:08                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-10-02 18:16                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-02 20:40                         ` Brian Harring
2012-10-02 20:46                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-14 16:45                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2012-10-14 16:38                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-17 13:52                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2012-09-18 13:27     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-16 16:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alex Alexander
2012-09-16 16:44   ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-17  3:08   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-17  5:31     ` Peter Stuge
2012-09-17 10:55     ` Alex Alexander
2012-09-17 11:49       ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-17 12:41         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-17 13:48           ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-17 13:58             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-17 14:11               ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-17 14:14                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-17 14:51                   ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-17 14:22             ` Michael Mol
2012-09-18 12:25         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-17  5:56 ` Brian Dolbec
2012-09-18  4:04 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2012-09-18  9:58   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-18  6:48 ` hasufell
2012-09-18  9:41   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-18  8:25 ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18  9:24   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-18  9:38     ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-18  9:56       ` vivo75
2012-09-18 10:35         ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-18 19:25           ` Zac Medico
2012-09-18 19:29             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 19:40               ` Zac Medico
2012-09-18 19:44                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 19:58                   ` Zac Medico
2012-09-18 20:10                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 20:21                       ` Zac Medico
2012-09-18 20:51                   ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 20:53                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 21:06                       ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 21:08                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 21:34                           ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 21:37                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 22:01                               ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 22:06                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 22:53                                   ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 23:28                                     ` Brian Harring
2012-09-19 10:48                                       ` Michał Górny
2012-09-19 11:36                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 11:06       ` Brian Harring
2012-09-18 12:11         ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-18 19:18           ` Alec Warner
2012-09-18 20:06             ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 20:11               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 20:22                 ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 20:27                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 20:40                     ` Michał Górny
2012-09-19  4:09                       ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-18 20:39                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-19  4:07             ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-19  6:01               ` Matt Turner
2012-09-19  6:36                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-19  6:55                   ` Matt Turner
2012-09-19  7:12                 ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-19 14:19                   ` Jeroen Roovers
2012-09-19 16:11                   ` Matt Turner
2012-09-18  9:47     ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 10:45       ` [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposas Brian Harring
2012-09-18 17:07       ` [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal Hans de Graaff
2012-09-18 17:18         ` Michael Mol
2012-09-18 17:21         ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2012-09-18 20:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2012-09-26  6:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2012-09-26 10:33   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-28 12:17   ` Brian Harring

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