From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193F6138010 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FEF021C070; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831B921C047 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhm2 with SMTP id hm2so3491651wib.10 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:39:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=6wAAzSyahuP+RBdkYj74ztb+mW3Hxc8E1naZTlGkwfM=; b=WYS5lVe5qt3Nuk/XeGB/q23buuTXObJ3/A13Vcp8fKjw5zaa8kMsCxAnCje2im+M7Q vN+fZ4S2RAM7PqMI3Qw9UmfGG2bUC0FmJe5rzBnzTtsD8XHbCWkoeEjFGon6JE7i+RBl RAJlFnZUeXTyhrIES26wTFuWKXX7oLw5zXSSb6jdlgZtN5Mgd/sRRT9VcoKVpakYwNuO wSs2ouc0ajy7s9kA61ISQc5mqepvNJDxN86Qd8rtoYTqXQi/hE+QGLKIkh+id86/WIp/ OTVdyyylrSt3U1OnfBvL65HrBiZ119T9jlDUCX0qnswVNmT45pMIMAolxAvTiITLmWS9 b/Sw== Received: by 10.180.102.136 with SMTP id fo8mr2025600wib.19.1348004378649; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc13-broo7-2-0-cust130.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [82.9.16.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fb20sm1419015wid.1.2012.09.18.14.39.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:37:19 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal Message-ID: <20120918223719.790e1477@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120918233429.277a4726@pomiocik.lan> References: <20120916135211.GC23030@localhost> <20120918102551.500ff19b@pomiocik.lan> <20120918092426.GA5384@localhost> <20568.16682.31115.233591@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <50584559.2000909@gmail.com> <20568.20091.816189.902403@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <5058CAC5.5080706@gentoo.org> <20120918202909.7b238573@googlemail.com> <5058CE43.6000501@gentoo.org> <20120918204433.52af8bcd@googlemail.com> <20120918225104.567ca679@pomiocik.lan> <20120918215355.7ee46043@googlemail.com> <20120918230606.03d994f2@pomiocik.lan> <20120918220843.39868fd0@googlemail.com> <20120918233429.277a4726@pomiocik.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.11; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/VxFDtfH2q0Z7qK=qiHZaQR="; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: ecf257ae-91d8-433c-b171-3eb8ea0fdf83 X-Archives-Hash: 47a7b77f3dc05a9dfa52b05762e23872 --Sig_/VxFDtfH2q0Z7qK=qiHZaQR= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:34:29 +0200 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:08:43 +0100 > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:06:06 +0200 > > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > > But didn't we already point out that we can't have them in RDEPEND > > > since they introduce conflicts? > >=20 > > You are missing a basic and important part of how dependency > > resolution works: currently, cycles consisting purely of RDEPENDs > > are ignorable. >=20 > So, what do we lose? If PDEP comes 'ASAP' officially, I believe that > we actually gain RDEPs which can be actually trusted. "ASAP" is a weaker guarantee that RDEPENDs currently have -- RDEPENDs currently have the weakest guarantee necessary to ensure that they can be trusted. It's also a useless guarantee, since "ASAP" can be arbitrarily late. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/VxFDtfH2q0Z7qK=qiHZaQR= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlBY6ZIACgkQ96zL6DUtXhF3XACfaxHm73NyzGHpCJ8YBiEZdUkH XRoAoLYrKq4pzQ5cEZ6lD3vxkN7kEBLc =hMIi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/VxFDtfH2q0Z7qK=qiHZaQR=--