From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB8D138010 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:47:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64385E06B5; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD70E0698 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhm2 with SMTP id hm2so5834708wib.4 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:46:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=pwv7h4vQKja+2mjnBZEIczu7QrMXwvdHie87rGSa230=; b=f+0AhEk421Xb/IOjFiWhSSSasz2xGASTE1gNDs4Ve2UhWIZCLKT/cOnKTuQ53SdOjD 9LebtktzlbbkxWyv9Vnw6GNPF6F9m3Rz/UHzK7/+plSGA5p1WrrV3rvBjWjOKIStkFTT Kj4qpRKGjjb11KBqKqZUbOJbZX9TDg3EtD88hmCJD2j9827NsE62bpDQgdtgG/KhRdV0 2Xai5iBoUvnV7NluvDTJQpoumQSQwHkF1f4Ine8zKrXESnBNuDonkTJD4pV9uJSz3Ou7 Yvh1wNgkkf3bo5YWGG5p26UzWlky5k6JD6dze5CZKfk4rV0ixknnGljb1QuvvyoST+MX 9d1Q== Received: by 10.180.84.1 with SMTP id u1mr1565997wiy.15.1347997611050; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc13-broo7-2-0-cust130.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [82.9.16.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r9sm921657wia.2.2012.09.18.12.46.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:44:33 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal Message-ID: <20120918204433.52af8bcd@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <5058CE43.6000501@gentoo.org> References: <20120916135211.GC23030@localhost> <20120918102551.500ff19b@pomiocik.lan> <20120918092426.GA5384@localhost> <20568.16682.31115.233591@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <50584559.2000909@gmail.com> <20568.20091.816189.902403@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <5058CAC5.5080706@gentoo.org> <20120918202909.7b238573@googlemail.com> <5058CE43.6000501@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.11; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/pskcJ1rN+XDEZAdCkdsIf/j"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 56907ff0-7c12-4de8-9038-5ba35a7ad0a3 X-Archives-Hash: 27e16a8afe97d60526b0c77a9dce41a3 --Sig_/pskcJ1rN+XDEZAdCkdsIf/j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:40:51 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > On 09/18/2012 12:29 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:25:57 -0700 > > Zac Medico wrote: > >> Also, if we change the meaning of RDEPEND in the next EAPI, so that > >> it's a hard build-time dep like DEPEND, then DEPEND=3D"${RDEPEND} > >> virtual/pkgconfig" can be reduced to DEPEND=3D"virtual/pkgconfig". > >> This is what I would like to do for the experimental EAPI > >> 5-hdepend which is planned [1]. > >=20 > > What're we going to do about the zillions of unsolvable cycles that > > that would create? (Does Portage detect those and error out yet?) >=20 > Yeah, it would be treated just like a DEPEND cycle, which is already > detected and treated as a fatal error. As a result, when bumping the > EAPI of an ebuild, you may have to migrate some deps from RDEPEND to > PDEPEND in order to solve the cycles. What about the large number of RDEPENDs that are required for a package to be usable, but not for it to be installed? --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/pskcJ1rN+XDEZAdCkdsIf/j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlBYzyQACgkQ96zL6DUtXhEaWwCgzLs/uJqJilUmvSvA0Aj6sUL6 YeUAnjfJ7dmuIJzGSDdN9jcv56MOGlfS =jcOm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/pskcJ1rN+XDEZAdCkdsIf/j--