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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 02:58:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120918095835.GD5384@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201209180604.55067.Arfrever.FTA@gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 06:04:51AM +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> A potential dev-libs/dep package

I assume this is a hypothetical package; if this is something out of 
your personal eapi/repo, please state so.

> might have valid use case for USE flags related to USE_EXPAND="DEP".
> Your suggested syntax for types of dependencies in DEPENDENCIES would conflict with these USE flags
> after implementing ":" delimiter for USE_EXPAND-related USE flags.

Actually, that was both the intent, and I thought explicitly 
clear/documented; 'dep' would be a PM controlled namespace- as I'm 
pretty sure I stated in the doc, else in that email thread on the 
subject.

Thus, yep, you got me, you can't create a USE_EXPAND/USE_GROUP named 
'dep'.

I very, very strongly doubt that anyone ever would come up with a 
scenario where this is required, and the alternative name is somehow 
worse.  Please give examples.

Also, you should keep in mind that w/ what I ultimately want for 
USE_EXPAND, we'd have a couple other namespace that couldn't be used 
by ebuilds/profiles.

Top of the head,

* arch; kind of a given, alternate addressing of x86 via arch:x86.  
Would be added purely for consistency, although iteration of the 
potential values would warrant the group existing.

* use; same reasoning as arch, added for consistency so the consuming 
code doesn't have to special case things.

* phase; intentionally reserved should we ever decide to do per phase 
restrict control (aka, turning userpriv off just for the test phase).

* license; Now, this one I *am* spitballing a bit- I'm not proposing 
it, just frankly thinking out loud.  If we had a license namespace 
there, we could potentially mask out certain deps if the user 
requested say pure bsd, or as a potential way to properly integrate in 
our existing bindist support; keep in mind if the group existed, we 
could use it in REQUIRED_USE also.


Either way, you get the idea; it was explicit that in fixing 
use_expand, a few namespaces would be offlimits.


> I vote for a separate syntax for types of dependencies.

A separate syntax, or keeping dep:build? from conflicting w/ someone 
wanting to use USE_EXPAND="DEP" ?

If you've got other critiques state them, else, while your opinion is 
yours, I doubt anyone is going to agree with you that it's a deal 
breaker.

~harring


  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-18 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-16 13:52 [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal Brian Harring
2012-09-16 14:39 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-pms] " Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-16 16:05   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-16 16:59     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-25 22:46       ` Brian Harring
2012-09-29 16:05         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-30 20:14           ` Brian Harring
2012-09-30 20:30             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-30 21:42               ` Brian Harring
2012-09-30 21:53                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-30 23:56                   ` Brian Harring
2012-10-01  7:13                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-01  9:01                       ` Brian Harring
2012-10-01  9:15                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-17 15:03                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2012-10-02 17:51                   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-pms] " Ian Stakenvicius
2012-10-02 17:56                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-02 18:08                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-10-02 18:16                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-02 20:40                         ` Brian Harring
2012-10-02 20:46                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-14 16:45                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2012-10-14 16:38                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-10-17 13:52                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2012-09-18 13:27     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-16 16:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alex Alexander
2012-09-16 16:44   ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-17  3:08   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-17  5:31     ` Peter Stuge
2012-09-17 10:55     ` Alex Alexander
2012-09-17 11:49       ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-17 12:41         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-17 13:48           ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-17 13:58             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-17 14:11               ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-17 14:14                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-17 14:51                   ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-17 14:22             ` Michael Mol
2012-09-18 12:25         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-17  5:56 ` Brian Dolbec
2012-09-18  4:04 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2012-09-18  9:58   ` Brian Harring [this message]
2012-09-18  6:48 ` hasufell
2012-09-18  9:41   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-18  8:25 ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18  9:24   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-18  9:38     ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-18  9:56       ` vivo75
2012-09-18 10:35         ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-18 19:25           ` Zac Medico
2012-09-18 19:29             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 19:40               ` Zac Medico
2012-09-18 19:44                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 19:58                   ` Zac Medico
2012-09-18 20:10                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 20:21                       ` Zac Medico
2012-09-18 20:51                   ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 20:53                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 21:06                       ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 21:08                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 21:34                           ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 21:37                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 22:01                               ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 22:06                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 22:53                                   ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 23:28                                     ` Brian Harring
2012-09-19 10:48                                       ` Michał Górny
2012-09-19 11:36                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 11:06       ` Brian Harring
2012-09-18 12:11         ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-18 19:18           ` Alec Warner
2012-09-18 20:06             ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 20:11               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 20:22                 ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 20:27                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-18 20:40                     ` Michał Górny
2012-09-19  4:09                       ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-18 20:39                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-19  4:07             ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-19  6:01               ` Matt Turner
2012-09-19  6:36                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-19  6:55                   ` Matt Turner
2012-09-19  7:12                 ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-19 14:19                   ` Jeroen Roovers
2012-09-19 16:11                   ` Matt Turner
2012-09-18  9:47     ` Michał Górny
2012-09-18 10:45       ` [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposas Brian Harring
2012-09-18 17:07       ` [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal Hans de Graaff
2012-09-18 17:18         ` Michael Mol
2012-09-18 17:21         ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2012-09-18 20:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2012-09-26  6:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2012-09-26 10:33   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-28 12:17   ` Brian Harring

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