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From: Fabian Groffen <grobian@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sub-slots (for EAPI 5)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:25:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120907192522.GW5282@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <504A44F4.2020104@gentoo.org>

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On 07-09-2012 12:03:16 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 09/07/2012 11:17 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > I guess real-life examples, more extensively described than you did
> > before, with exactly where it goes wrong, and how the situation is
> > improved would help.
> 
> Perhaps some of the greatest frustrations for Gentoo users stem from the
> lack of support for automatic rebuild of packages when necessary.
> Imagine how nice it would be if necessary rebuilds would automatically
> occur when appropriate, so that you wouldn't experience build failures
> that require you to manually intervene by running revdep-rebuild,
> perl-cleaner, or something like that. And there are other kinds of
> necessary rebuilds that don't trigger build failures, but lead to
> runtime failures that are noticed much later (like xorg driver failures
> after a major xorg-server update). Sub-slots can be used to solve the
> bulk of problems like these that our users have had to deal with manually.

I like that!  Kudos for making it work!

I just wonder what the heck that has to do with SLOT.
This discussion has been done before in this thread, and it somehow
settled.

> ... sub-slots are a relatively simple extension to slot-operator deps,
> and they are poised to greatly improve user experience (via automatic
> rebuilds) if they are included in EAPI 5.

And we want it.  But is it a good idea to add some feature that feels
like just a hack?


-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-07 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-04 21:26 [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-portage-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue Pacho Ramos
2012-06-05 12:44 ` Aaron W. Swenson
2012-06-05 13:31   ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2012-06-05 23:07     ` Zac Medico
2012-06-06  5:31       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-06  5:49         ` Zac Medico
2012-06-06  8:28       ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-06  9:17         ` Zac Medico
2012-06-06  9:48           ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-06 10:13             ` Zac Medico
2012-06-06 17:16             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-06 18:02               ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-06 18:15                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-06 18:30                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-06 18:33                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-06 19:16                       ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-06 19:23                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-06 19:32                           ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-07  0:43                           ` Zac Medico
2012-06-07  8:24                             ` Brian Harring
2012-06-07 16:43                               ` Zac Medico
2012-06-07 17:40                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-07 17:55                                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-07 18:03                                   ` Zac Medico
2012-06-07 18:08                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-07 18:16                                     ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-07 18:43                                       ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-07 18:44                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-07 19:00                                           ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-07 19:09                                             ` Zac Medico
2012-06-07 19:24                                               ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-07 19:33                                                 ` Zac Medico
2012-06-08  8:38                                                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-08 19:16                                                     ` Zac Medico
2012-06-08 19:23                                                       ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-08 19:31                                                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-06-08 19:31                                                         ` Zac Medico
2012-06-09 10:46                                                           ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-09 10:53                                                             ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-09 12:15                                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-09 20:55                                                             ` Zac Medico
2012-06-10 12:25                                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-10 12:45                                                                 ` Davide Pesavento
2012-06-10 13:07                                                                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-06-10 18:18                                                                 ` Zac Medico
2012-06-24  0:42                                                                   ` Zac Medico
2012-06-25 13:03                                                                     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-06-25 17:58                                                                       ` Zac Medico
2012-06-27 19:38                                                                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-06-30  8:46                                                                           ` [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of perl modules Torsten Veller
2012-06-30  9:30                                                                             ` Zac Medico
2012-06-30 17:12                                                                               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-07-07  1:17                                                                                 ` Kent Fredric
2012-07-07  4:40                                                                                   ` Zac Medico
2012-06-10 19:17                                                                 ` [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue Pacho Ramos
2012-06-10 22:49                                                                 ` Brian Harring
2012-06-12 15:26                                                                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-06-07 19:14                                             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-06-07 19:15                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-07 21:34                                                 ` Brian Harring
2012-06-07 18:04                                 ` Ralph Sennhauser
2012-06-07 18:23                                   ` Zac Medico
2012-06-08  1:20                                   ` Zac Medico
2012-06-06 21:21               ` Zac Medico
2012-06-07  5:28                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-07 17:42                   ` Zac Medico
2012-06-07 17:59                     ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-07 18:09                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-06  5:33     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-06  8:32       ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-06 17:19         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-06 18:03           ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-06 21:45           ` Zac Medico
2012-06-07  6:12             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-07 17:47               ` Zac Medico
2012-06-07 18:04                 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2012-06-07 18:14                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-07 18:13                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-07 18:28                   ` Zac Medico
2012-06-05 20:28   ` [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-portage-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-06  0:51   ` Michael Weber
2012-06-06  2:18     ` Zac Medico
2012-06-06  8:46       ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-06  8:54         ` Zac Medico
2012-06-06  9:10           ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2012-06-06  9:30             ` Zac Medico
2012-07-07 11:29               ` Peter Stuge
2012-07-07 14:10                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-07-07 18:54                   ` Peter Stuge
2012-07-07 20:18                     ` Zac Medico
2012-06-06 21:59       ` [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-portage-dev] " Brian Harring
2012-06-06 22:08         ` Zac Medico
2012-06-07  9:13         ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2012-06-06  8:44     ` [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-portage-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2012-09-06  9:01 ` Fabian Groffen
2012-09-06 13:25   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-06 13:30     ` [EDIT] " Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-07 17:13     ` Fabian Groffen
2012-09-07 17:51       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-07 18:17         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: sub-slots (for EAPI 5) Fabian Groffen
2012-09-07 18:21           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 18:49             ` Fabian Groffen
2012-09-07 18:55               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 19:07                 ` Fabian Groffen
2012-09-07 18:39           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-07 19:00             ` Fabian Groffen
2012-09-07 19:03           ` Zac Medico
2012-09-07 19:25             ` Fabian Groffen [this message]
2012-09-07 19:36               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 19:50                 ` Fabian Groffen
2012-09-07 19:53               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-07 17:52       ` [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-portage-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue Zac Medico
2012-09-07 17:59         ` Fabian Groffen
2012-09-06 16:40   ` Zac Medico

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