From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1ED3138010 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 16:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29052E0024; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 16:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f41.google.com (mail-wg0-f41.google.com [74.125.82.41]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C57E045E for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 16:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so1372586wgb.4 for ; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:02:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=LJytkf0LbFfkX9Noyxmofdg7vL8USCD8JflzskhVlIM=; b=KNf/Xwm3weybHE9rSVr+EKYpsr4DPvyLDDW4sd1eLj1B1+Bmt0lGOviTkBDZlq3OiU iwEnpby2P5VCdO2bJqvb+HT0UtlSRQ0y2PIGICfHO2JpyzBaNRzfN/Jfty9nawaS+Vpn 0YhhpJQp7ap9I+9JnkE890L2gO4OrKJ5Wa6jMvnuF71AHYoo2qkHWot80rUPzMfZ7rav vQgwfjv0/jzybr/Lu9Gk4zgfRX+rapYLmIZDi4FvdP3bMMPXYGqq0ptUCS1mygd66wTk XktQuz0z0aneP3Gdd+bWqPk7mk+4Sapj1bMjtSBDxEU5w+AtESiBZyBamfg2zBdv1Ph3 MF+w== Received: by 10.180.86.106 with SMTP id o10mr11841593wiz.22.1346515330648; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc13-broo7-2-0-cust130.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [82.9.16.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id do5sm11389033wib.10.2012.09.01.09.02.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:00:54 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] HDEPEND (host dependencies for cross-compilation) for EAPI 5? Message-ID: <20120901170054.480394ef@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <504168D7.7090901@gentoo.org> References: <50411874.4060204@gentoo.org> <20120831214611.088b3f50@googlemail.com> <5041288A.6030802@gentoo.org> <50413399.4030000@gentoo.org> <504142BD.7060905@gentoo.org> <20120901000738.78198cd4@googlemail.com> <504168D7.7090901@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.11; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/F6cqljEdLZbiEncW_lmxYOs"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 5b15414c-311a-4b45-b51d-a44a8d101cf3 X-Archives-Hash: 32d5a00489055554cb63812118c70fba --Sig_/F6cqljEdLZbiEncW_lmxYOs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:45:59 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > On 08/31/2012 04:07 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:03:25 -0700 > > Zac Medico wrote: > >>> runtime-switchable USE flags for optional dependencies o.O? It > >>> sounds like using a spoon to eat spaghetti to me. > >> > >> All suggested deps are not equal, so USE flags give you the > >> ability to pick and choose the ones that you want. > >=20 > > So does --take / --ignore with suggested dependencies, with the > > added advantage that suggested packages don't end up being brought > > in without user request just because a user has a particular use > > flag enabled globally. >=20 > If the USE flags have ambiguous meanings doesn't that mean that > they've been poorly named? It's not like that. It's that in practice, suggestions are mostly for a particular specific feature (such as git-send-email support), not for a general concept (such as email in general). It also defeats the point of suggestions, if they're not made visible. For users, suggestions should look like suggestions, and they should be able to see them easily. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/F6cqljEdLZbiEncW_lmxYOs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlBCMTkACgkQ96zL6DUtXhGUsgCdGbStE4ON7/Pt56TDzmPouBE9 PkgAn3dFEDzrlsb5RtrTK1HQN1C4VU20 =hcjq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/F6cqljEdLZbiEncW_lmxYOs--