Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC network provides revisited

[William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>]

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On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 07:40:43AM +0900, heroxbd@gentoo.org wrote:
> Besides, IMHO, we should avoid changing OpenRC's default dependency too
> often. The solution for one user can be received as a regression to
> others.
> 
> People file bugs saying "it worked for OpenRC-0.9 but not 0.10". For
> devs, we know we just changed default value of something perfectly
> configurable. But for that user, it is quite discouraging to feel
> "something in OpenRC is still unstable".

Another thing to consider is, do the services we say "need net" really
_NEED_ net?

If a service is a listener like sshd that isn't bound to a specific
address by default and can deal with interfaces going up and down, I
would guess that it doesn't. I am thinking that we can set up the
depends for sshd as follows:

use net
after net

That would make sure a net provider runs before sshd if one is
in the runlevel, but allow sshd to start if one is not as well.

This would have to be tested on a case-by-case basis.

About changing default values, I think that if we have a good reason to
change them, we should inform users and change them.

I think the advantage here is that it makes openrc run out of the box in
more situations.

William


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