From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AC91381F4 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 06:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EDE621C04A for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 06:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77DFE0824 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 03:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54104208CB for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:24:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=quv9BOfXex7dsh7uUV9NoXiRZfU=; b=V4PW M7oZrseScYhT675KdhgyAwCg/17+ttk1E9RTZUbBWhCRCELHDIny4wrJ/Mn4TT0y atY5ORVCM6v0SdxfIht6L7Ts8dqjNAKgrfSnxLaVtXAg6NvYejCsLZ5lNWr0sEi9 wVJAM1+26BTwERFZTDireuzv+wDX8dhZxzlFnQA= X-Sasl-enc: w5fXtvg095huXqlUb4lnkOSW2X725dkJzFJcU0yMgYTf 1344914657 Received: from localhost (unknown [67.168.183.230]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AD58B4837F2; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:24:16 -0700 From: Greg KH To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC Message-ID: <20120814032416.GA8489@kroah.com> References: <1344366029.24762.31.camel@TesterTop4> <502377E7.8010803@gentoo.org> <1344535966.2121.6.camel@TesterTop4> <20120809183130.GA6795@linux1> <20120809195727.5d04ccff@googlemail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 997479d0-4d80-43e3-a15a-b8a3a1169b82 X-Archives-Hash: 74ac01f404d1687aca12099f11fcb3e6 On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 03:47:19PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > > I agree with Greg Kroah-Hartman: I actually like (and want) a > > "vertically integrated, tightly coupled way of doing things". > > Well, if you completely agreed with him you wouldn't be running Gentoo > (or Debian, or other general-purpose distros). He advocates that > ordinary users should use more purpose-driven distros, where all of > this stuff is less of an issue. That is not what I said, or mean at all. Given that I'm a Gentoo developer, and have been for a very long time, I find it very strange that you would think otherwise. greg k-h