From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82B01381F4 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F85921C056 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D64521C03E for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (87-205-57-138.adsl.inetia.pl [87.205.57.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 78BEB1B400A; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:37:18 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: headch@gmail.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC Message-ID: <20120813233718.691b2cad@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <20120813124751.064f3935@ritchie.cs.ubc.ca> References: <50276335.2020806@gentoo.org> <20120813124751.064f3935@ritchie.cs.ubc.ca> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.11; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/Q3RWvxEx.03t_FZXU5GfjAM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: b7cf06d4-98c2-493d-ab7c-985fa839c5ef X-Archives-Hash: 48d8d2478ac70c7c56cb476cfe76fd1a --Sig_/Q3RWvxEx.03t_FZXU5GfjAM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:47:51 -0700 Christopher Head wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:03:01 +0300 > Samuli Suominen wrote: >=20 > > > 2. I saw on some lists that Gnome/Kde and Xfce plan to use some > > > SystemD API, so does it means that we will need to install SystemD > > > aside of OpenRC ? > >=20 > > For Xfce it only means that xfce4-session will try to query > > credentials also from systemd, not ConsoleKit alone > >=20 > > There are no plans of removing ConsoleKit support for Xfce wrt > > upstream anytime soon since Xfce is committed for long-term BSD > > support, and the Xfce development team includes developers, from eg. > > OpenBSD > >=20 > > > 4. Finally, is there any reason why Gnome/Kde/Xfce wants to add > > > deps related to SystemD ? I don't understand why these desktops > > > want to depend on a specific Sysint.... > >=20 > > || ( sys-auth/consolekit sys-apps/systemd ) or something can be done > > if the package tries to query both via DBUS calls > > As in, something needs to tell PolicyKit (polkit) that you are a > > local user and thus grant access to eg. USB removable devices > >=20 >=20 > What about those of us who are perfectly happy using neither one? I=E2=80= =99ve > never had any of the Kits installed, and the recommendation has always > been to just put yourself in the =E2=80=9Cplugdev=E2=80=9D group which ha= s worked > fine. Is this going to continue to be possible, or is this going away? I can't say whether at some point GNOME wouldn't try hard to force this on us, but it will be still supported one way or another. There are still people (like me) working on alternate solutions, and those people will try hard to keep things working as they like them. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/Q3RWvxEx.03t_FZXU5GfjAM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAlApc5cACgkQfXuS5UK5QB1zZQP/UDpHUIQI1/nU6AMX46fn4+gE Lzx+Zd4tv8oqFvIq7szmoFkJr5PXOaxQNRi9mRxfuhusZvcdibWe6KWXpHOfHP12 sayYTL/APlWUjDkK7oLaygdfxNbaaV6R1Q0OAn4RuhxDho1f1knPXTefHrh1b2XG EuqPsclus6RLCbEo5rg= =zl/q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Q3RWvxEx.03t_FZXU5GfjAM--