From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46AC13800E for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 577EFE0602; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED319E06C0 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (87-205-57-138.adsl.inetia.pl [87.205.57.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D7EB1B40E0; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:13:19 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: tommy@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev Message-ID: <20120810201319.49b6a064@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <502545D6.2020005@gentoo.org> References: <20120710171800.493a7c4c@pomiocik.lan> <20120710192427.GA22787@linux1> <20120810095950.5bfb0f5a@pomiocik.lan> <502545D6.2020005@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.11; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/7=Xz8jxRY=AfaJq08gbp_GW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 84855080-dc43-400f-b72f-f95ec6b958f7 X-Archives-Hash: 03bf03b5c8ad9d2df9e1f8467f61d4d8 --Sig_/7=Xz8jxRY=AfaJq08gbp_GW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:33:10 +0200 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny schrieb: > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500 > > William Hubbs wrote: > >=20 > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > >>> Hello, all. > >>> > >>> Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two > >>> libudev providers: >=3Dsys-apps/systemd-185 and sys-fs/udev. Making > >>> the long story short, I would like to introduce a virtual for > >>> libudev which would pull in either of those two. > >>> > >>> There are three USE flags used in conditionals when depending on > >>> udev: > >>> - gudev - for glib wrapper on udev, > >>> - hwdb - to pull in hwids, > >>> - static-libs. > >>> > >>> The former two were previously provided by 'extras' USE flag, > >>> and the third was unconditional. > >>> > >>> I'm attaching an example virtual/libudev which does the job. > >>> Sadly, because of the 'extras' compatibility it's a big ugly > >>> conditional. > >> > >> I'm going to ask here, because of the discussion on IRC, that you > >> not commit this yet. There are issues still we need to work out wrt > >> packaging systemd and udev. > >=20 > > So, can I commit the virtual and finally start fixing people's > > systems or are we going to discuss this to the day when other > > options are no longer a possibility and virtual will be necessary? > >=20 > > You seem still not to understand that upstream *does not care*. > > And either way, merging udev and systemd will result that two, four > > or six months from now users will need to manually re-adjust their > > @world to have the packages split again. > >=20 >=20 > I wrote it the last time you asked and i write it this time again: NO! >=20 > Beside that, the last time i wrote you a mail about this topic, where > you did not respond at all. So please read it again and answer it. > Such change should be properly checked, before we even think about > the idea of such a switch. I'm pretty sure I replied to every mail I got from you. And please remind me: what is your relevance to systemd or udev? What do you know about history of those packages? --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/7=Xz8jxRY=AfaJq08gbp_GW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAlAlT0QACgkQfXuS5UK5QB3gnwQAo/UN1KKxyDWPytRoUM/tT2ur x7+d30asOzvqnr23bt7HClPpTJ8Kl8gSfcFwQBFBLnH2WD8qlc6iNUh224VHdAIV qTvhPL8nWeuPh+nnOdrP4OnLP3iOTGwQ0tpe2iWQ8jWKThAvV9X1/vaLvu544BkN NuInc14jTXKORxFgRuU= =bm/r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/7=Xz8jxRY=AfaJq08gbp_GW--