From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3832F13800E for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 23:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CEF4E0768; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 23:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D9EE0676 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 23:00:34 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsKAG6Zu09FxLA7/2dsb2JhbABEsnYDgRiBCIIVAQEFOhwzCxgcEhQlN4gOugmCSog+WoFEgjxiA40+h1yFX4g6gViDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="195394666" Received: from 69-196-176-59.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([69.196.176.59]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 09 Aug 2012 19:00:33 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:00:25 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:00:25 -0400 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC Message-ID: <20120809230025.GB7121@waltdnes.org> References: <1344366029.24762.31.camel@TesterTop4> <502377E7.8010803@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 1df64e88-2dc0-4439-b73c-2aa9d03b73e0 X-Archives-Hash: ae36ba997b335fd123553f53f23dc835 On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 01:44:25PM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Luca Barbato wrote: > > > Obviously it is always fun seeing people first say "accept it or fork > > it", then "do not keep your fork you are wasting time" once somebody > > starts forking and/or working for an alternative. > > By all means, fork it. Just allow Gentoo users to use udev/systemd as > upstream intended. And while we are at it, don't put OpenRC in the > dependency list of baselayout, otherwise it gets pulled in (and > sysvinit with it) for all systemd users even if we don't use it at > all. Good idea. While we're at it, please also let's not make systemd/udevd/dbus/pam mandatory. -- Walter Dnes